September 2, 2009: Transitions, open chat 2
The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on September 2, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was Transitions.
LitChat It’s time for another hour (or more) of #litchat. Introduce yourself and join the convo. Topic of the week is TRANSITIONS. -12:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
MaureenMcGowan RT @LitChat: It’s time for another hour (or more) of #litchat. Introduce yourself and join the convo. Topic of the week is TRANSITIONS. -1:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat If you have any questions on the topic, TRANSITIONS, please send to @LitChat w/o hashtag and I will post to chat. #litchat -1:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BookingIt Hi, I’m Laura, I’ll be in and out today. I’m having Twitter problems, so I may be more out than in. #litchat -1:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @LitChat Accidental deletions are even worse than accidental transitions. #litchat -1:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @nicolamorgan just found you on twitter. Are you joining #litchat tonight? It’s just started. -1:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mmj5170 @maggiedana I lost a whole chapter once but it was OK; it sucked. #litchat -1:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana @corb21 Accidential deletions are the worst kind of transitions. #litchat -1:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mmj5170 Oh and, I’m here. #litchat -1:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @mmj5170 Now there’s an honest, positive attitude. #litchat -1:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead Hi! *Waves* I’m an aspiring author with a new website http://rebeccawoodhead.com am also Ms Twitter UK for a few more days at… #litchat -1:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat On Monday we discussed transitions in character development and in the passage of time. How about authors changing genres? #LITCHAT -1:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mmj5170 @CarolyBurnsBass Really. The re-write was so much better. I had no choice and had to start all over again. #litchat -1:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @mmj5170 Turning lemons into … something potable w/alcohol? #litchat -1:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @rebeccawoodhead Ah, I only have about 10 minutes but I’ll toddle along to #litchat right now …. -1:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead ..which point I – and my American counterpoint Paula Abdul – must hang up my crown π #litchat -1:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat What authors have successfully transitioned from one genre to another? #LITCHAT -1:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour James Hamilton-Paterson #litchat #litchat -1:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @nicolamorgan great news. Always nice to have a few from the UK. π #litchat -1:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
zumayabooks Are authors who succeed in one genre even ALLOWED to switch these days. Look how John Grisham faired w/A Painted House. #litchat -1:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan in kids’ writing we often move betw fic/non-fic and between ages, which is akin to different genres. Can’t afford to eat otherwise! #litchat -1:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @LitChat aside from Shakespeare? #litchat -1:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus @LitChat I would have to say that Stephen King managed to transition from horror to fantasy w/hi Dark Tower pretty well #litchat -1:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @LitChat How about that literary UK author (Banks, Banville?) who’s just written a thriller and got slammed for slamming genres. #litchat -1:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @LitChat How about James Patterson? #litchat -1:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour Michelle Lovric has just made the transition into writing for children with The Undrowned Child. #litchat -1:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan Iain Banks has done two genres for ages. AND Banville has too – crime and “lit-fic” #litchat -1:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour Iain Banks / Iain M. Banks #litchat -1:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana He doesn’t write his books; just outlines them for someone else to write. RT @cookiebiscuit: @LitChat How about James Patterson? #litchat -1:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather hi sorry I’m late. took me a minute to log in to tweetchat. Hope it works today. #litchat -1:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana iain banks writes in two genres that I’m aware of #litchat -1:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @nicolamorgan Hello! Great/small minds and all that. How’s the festival lag? #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan I find it weird that anyone should think it weird that an author can write in several genres. It’s only publishers make it hard #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
NotJaneAusten Roald Dahl writes both children’s fantasy books and terrifyingly dark short stories for adults! #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus @cookiebiscuit yes, Patterson is I think successful with his YA Maximum series and a few tear-jerker romances #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead Jilly Cooper writes in a number of genres but is only known for one #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass Kay Hooper began writing category romance in the early 80s and has transitioned with NYT bestselling success to thrillers. #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @nicolamorgan festival, what festival???! I’m fickle #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @nicolamorgan Was it one of them that got slammed recently for insinuating it’s easier to write genre than lit-fic. #litchat -1:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @nicolamorgan it’s the same kind of idea behind thinking an actor can only play one role. Never understood that mentality. #litchat -1:17 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @maggiedana yes, that was Banville. But he only got slammed by the media. Looking for any story #litchat -1:17 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @cookiebiscuit Doesn’t James Patterson work with a stable of co-authors who hammer out books along with him? #litchat -1:17 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @lillygustavus And James Herbert wrote (or still writes?) mostly horror and then wrote ‘Fluke’ about a dog who thinks he’s a man #litchat -1:17 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @rebeccawoodhead exactly. #litchat -1:17 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee we read different genres so why shouldn’t a writer be able to write in other genres? #litchat -1:18 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @cookiebiscuit Fluke was one of the best books I read as a teenager, and has really stayed with me. Didn’t like his other stuff. #litchat -1:18 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @NotJaneAusten Dahl was also a WWII spy and was encouraged by Eleanor Roosevelt to write for kids. Gremlins was his first book. #litchat -1:18 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @lillygustavus The detective novels, Cradle and All and Suzanne’s Diary for Nicholas are 3 different genres #litchat -1:18 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
NotJaneAusten @maggiedana I didn’t know that! Interesting stuff. His short stories are wonderful. #litchat -1:19 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan all my novels are VERY different, if not technically different “genres”. You never know what to expect. That’s good … and bad! #litchat -1:19 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @nicolamorgan Banville’s THE UNTOUCHABLES was beyond brilliant. Couldn’t get into his other books, though. #litchat -1:19 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @pitchparlour I agree – I loved Fluke but started reading Haunted only to remember I’d seen the film and knew the story #litchat -1:19 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @maggiedana Surely genre-fiction is ‘easier’ in that there is a recipe to follow. Literary fiction can be anything, any structure. #litchat -1:20 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @maggiedana Only read The Sea. Until argument re genres, didn’t know he’d written crime! Pseudonym … says it all? It’s marketing #litchat -1:20 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @NotJaneAusten I discovered all this neat stuff about Dahl in THE IRREGULARS by Jennet Conant. #litchat -1:20 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @cookiebiscuit And Haunted was pants. #litchat -1:20 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @hprw Are you with us, o wise one? We have wine and chocolate #litchat -1:21 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana I’ve had mid-grade and YA published in the 1980s; my first novel for grownups came out this summer. #litchat -1:21 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus genre transition isn’t even a new thing, thing Georgette Heyer who wrote both mysteries and hist. romances & was great at both #litchat -1:21 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana said the same – I didn’t know. Maybe that’s why they seem like they were written by different people #litchat -1:21 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @maggiedana you genre-bender, you! #litchat -1:22 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Yell louder. She’s probably on the floor. RT @nicolamorgan: @hprw Are you with us, o wise one? We have wine and chocolate #litchat -1:22 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @pitchparlour And the film was pretty pants as well #litchat -1:22 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @nicolamorgan I bet she’s doing romance and food with her husband. It’s that time again. #litchat -1:22 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather I got the impression there are authors who use pen names for alternate genres sometimes. #litchat -1:23 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @cookiebiscuit Ha! Glad it wasn’t just me. #litchat -1:23 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana RT @pitchparlour: @nicolamorgan I bet shes doing romance and food with her husband. Its that time again. Valentine’s Day? AGAIN? #litchat -1:23 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo Haunted was a good movie, but I couldn’t get into the book #litchat -1:23 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan @pitchparlour @hprw has to wash all the mud off herself before she can salubriously join our intellectual party #litchat -1:23 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead idea that writers must now occupy only 1 genre is strong. Have written books not for publication. They needed to be written. #litchat -1:24 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan eg Banville, Rendell, er lots of others #litchat -1:24 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @nicolamorgan Ah, but she’s covered in intellectual mud, so no worries. #litchat -1:24 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RKCharron @RebeccaMather That’s true – Michelle Sagara also writes as Michelle West #litchat -1:24 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @lillygustavus I loved Georgette Heyer when I was a teenager but I couldn’t read it now. #litchat -1:25 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @nicolamorgan @hprw Does that mean I have to wash the mud from my mind before too? #litchat -1:25 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @RebeccaMather there are rumors Stephen King wrote work-for-hire Harlequin romances #litchat -1:25 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @cookiebiscuit I don’t know, give it a try. I did recently and it was fun. Small doses though. Tiny. #litchat -1:26 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @mciddangelo @RebeccaMather Please let that be true. #litchat -1:26 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead The Brontes wrote children’s stories too, and poetry #litchat -1:26 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict Late arrival here! What are we discussing? #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @mciddangelo well now I would love to get my hands on his harlequin books! #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @thebookaddict Transitions. #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead T.S. Eliot, Ernest Hemingway #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
nicolamorgan got to go – enjoy rest of litchat. Thanks for company #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @zumayabooks What happens in such cases as Grisham is readers expect a certain kind of book & if it doesn’t deliver they’re bummed. #litchat -1:27 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead Tolstoy wrote limericks and bawdy alehouse ballads #litchat -1:28 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
dakegra @beecee familiarity with the genre in question might put writers off? #litchat -1:28 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat So we’re discussing transitions between genres? #litchat -1:28 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat @thebookaddict At the moment, we’re discussing transitions of the author and genre kind. #LITCHAT -1:28 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana It’s all about branding these days. RT @CarolyBurnsBass readers expect a certain kind of book & if it doesnt deliver theyre bummed. #litchat -1:29 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict One of my great uncles wrote romance novels…not sure what his pen name was though! #litchat -1:29 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
zumayabooks @CarolyBurnsBass True, but only if said book isn’t properly marketed. Even then, some of the fans will read it–and like it. #litchat -1:29 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana O’Tolstoy? RT @rebeccawoodhead: Tolstoy wrote limericks and bawdy alehouse ballads #litchat -1:29 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @maggiedana @nicolamorgan Here I am! Fuelled up and ready to type. But not much, because of RSI. #litchat -1:30 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @dakegra I think it is more it puts readers off so writers are discouraged from trying new genres. That or publishers are #litchat -1:30 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @thebookaddict Cool about your uncle. I bet he didn’t tell anyone about this, either. #litchat -1:30 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana ;P #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 Sorry I’m late (again) was actually working on a press release for a cross genre author of ours, ironic! #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings Doris Lessing’s genre hopping? Used psuedonym to challenge whether her established style would be published by ‘other’ author #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass LOL! RT @maggiedana: OTolstoy? RT @rebeccawoodhead: Tolstoy wrote limericks and bawdy alehouse ballads #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Handing —> bucket of plonk. #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @hprw Did you miss the crabbit one in the revolving door? #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
wendykwebb I thought carefully about the genre of my first book because of just this reason. Success= more books in that genre. #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @pitchparlour: @nicolamorgan @maggiedana Here I am, muddy both physically and intellectually, ready to join in. Let me catch up! #litchat -1:31 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @pitchparlour The Crabbit One (aka @nicolamorgan) has just emailed me so she might be lurking. #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict Ken Follett, writer of thrillers, switched genres 2 hist. fiction 4 Pillars of the Earth & World w/o End…2 great books! #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat Should publishers discourage authors from changing genres? #LITCHAT -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat @corb21 So, how do you find readers (or even yr own publishing house) react to this cross-genre author? #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus @cookiebiscuit I have yet to read her romances but I think that the mysteries are a hoot #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @warmstrings Who on earth would refuse to publish and promote Doris? #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 yup RT @maggiedana It’s all about branding these days. #litchat -1:32 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @LitChat Tweetchat is dropping tweets. My revelation that Tolstoy wrote bawdy verse -false though it was- went missing. Suspicious #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @beecee I think genre hopping can be a good thing! #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @warmstrings Lessing wrote w/pseudonym to discover if new writer would find it hard to get published–genre was her usual one. #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee Once chatted with Maeve Binchy and she had a book rejected because it wasn’t her traditional genre, which is a pity #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @LitChat only if said author can’t write in that genre. If they’re a strong pen, it’ll show no matter what the angle. #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus Nora Roberts tried her hand at fantasy but i wasn’t crazy about it, I have yet to read any of her romances #litchat -1:33 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict @maggiedana No, I think it was one of those scandalous family stories, you know?! #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo RT @LitChat: Should publishers discourage authors from changing genres? #LITCHAT <They will try. -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Got it. [signed] O’Tolstoy. #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @corb21 I hope so! My writing genre hops as does my reading! #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings @pitchparlour Her quest was to publish a book that ‘felt’ written by her, but under another name, to see if it would be accepted. #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @pitchparlour I adore Doris: her reaction to winning the Nobel Prize was priceless and her writing’s not too bad either. #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 so many genres are mixed nowadays anyway… #litchat -1:34 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @mciddangelo I would hope authors are encouraged to write what they love – wouldn’t the writing be more authentic and passionate? #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Just don’t head hop as well. RT @beecee: @corb21 I hope so! My writing genre hops as does my reading! #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict RT @pitchparlour: @warmstrings Who on earth would refuse to publish and promote Doris? <—I know…right?! #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke evening twitterati, apologies for tardiness #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @LitChat Nope, just make sure that the writers can write well in new genre before publishing them. #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead where’s that nice chap from The Guardian? Be nice to hear his views on this #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 We (publishingworks.com) publish many authors who hop genres. Whether we publish multiples or they have other publishers… #litchat -1:35 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @LexxClarke *hugs* #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat @rebeccawoodhead Never fear, Miss Twitter UK. I have the Tolstoy tweet in my TweetChat feed. #LITCHAT -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings @pitchparlour http://www.dorislessing.org/theof.html re doris lessing’s genre questioning psuedonym #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @warmstrings We over-tweeted each other with a clarification about Lessing! #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @RebeccaMather I write a wide range of material, but my agent only want to peddle one genre for me. #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 case in point, that PR I was writing… author has written 3 cat related books, now writing historical romance…and doing GREAT! #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @hprw Exactly. As recently expounded by Ms Morgan. #litchat -1:36 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @rebeccawoodhead *hugs back* #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @LexxClarke “twitterati” I like that! hi there. #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat I write in so many genres (surely *something* will be published!) I’d rather self-publish than have a publisher try to restrict me #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @maggiedana nope I have squashed the head hopping thing… slapped wrists all round for that one #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana <— Delivering hard smack to —>RT @LexxClarke: evening twitterati, apologies for tardiness #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict @corb21 Me too! I don’t want my books to be pigeon-holed in to one genre! My writing is as diverse as what I like to read! #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @thejohnkeenan you joining us on #litchat? We’re talking about genre transitions at the mo. -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
wendykwebb Daniel Handler apparently wrote a couple of off-color books for adults before he switched to YA, thus the Snicket pseudonym? #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lillygustavus genre trans. is a good thing if it’s done by a superb writer because then fans of other genres can appreciate an author’s writing #litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings @hprw over clarification is always good! But what about Doris’ sci fi? X (#litchat) -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
natashasolomons I didn’t know what genre I was writing in until my agent told me…#litchat -1:37 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw I’ve pubbed fiction, poetry, journalism (consumer, building), myth, crit, nat history, environmentalism, kids, all sorts… #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @corb21 harro :o) adding making neologisms to my list of literary skills! #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenteGallagher Surprising number of mystery/thriller writers started in romance. And going from romance/mystery to YA is big these days. #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @thebookaddict But publishing prefers pigeon holes. #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw … have had no trouble crossing genres. Different names on each genre, though, so branding does come into it. #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @maggiedana You’re quite keen on those smacks, Maggie. Do I sense a pattern emerging in leafy Connecticut? #litchat -1:38 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @mciddangelo Wondered about that. I want to write children’s pbks just because I love it but don’t want to be boxed in.Discouraged? #litchat -1:39 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
natashasolomons I love David Lodge – I find his academic work challenging and his novels are so funny. He really manages to cross genre. #litchat -1:39 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead wondering if there is a tricky time during transition between genres when one needs special meds. Transgenre confusion. #litchat -1:39 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @warmstrings Doris’s SF was still lit fic, I thought it more satire than SF anyway (but I adore Doris, and probably over-egg her). #litchat -1:39 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke I’m interested in those authors who pub diff genres but don’t use diff names, does it work? #litchat -1:39 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana Those pidgeon holes help the publishers know how to market and bookstores where to shelve. #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @pitchparlour I’m old. We’re allowed to smack whippersnappers. #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
dakegra @beecee ah, if we’re talking established names perhaps. Some authors do have various pen names though for such things #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer Publishers should sign me up immediately, if they want literary acumen, sex, and the occasional witch. #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @maggiedana scuse me? We for one do not pigeon hole. #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @pitchparlour: @maggiedana is wearing stilettoes and black, buckled PVC as she types. Crack that whip, Ms Dana! #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings “I think there is something very wring with an attitude that puts a ‘serious’ book on 1 shelf…… #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Definitely. RT @CarolyBurnsBass: Those pidgeon holes help the publishers know how to market and bookstores where to shelve. #litchat -1:40 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @LexxClarke nice. very shakespeare of you… #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @LitChat Lots of authors publish across genres under pen-names. Helps solve branding problem. #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @LexxClarke Only when the author is the brand. #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke RT @maggiedana: <- Delivering hard smack to ->RT @LexxClarke: evening twitterati, apologies for tardiness | still turned up though! #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @rebeccawoodhead TCS: Transgenre confusion syndrome. Can we get that included in our new healthcare package? #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings ….and, let’s say, First and Last Men on another”. Lessing. #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Oop, sorry. Didn’t mean to pigeonhole. RT @corb21: @maggiedana scuse me? We for one do not pigeon hole. #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @dakegra true but in the past they didn’t #litchat #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw RT @CarolyBurnsBass: @maggiedana Those pidgeon holes help the publishers know how to market and bookstores where to shelve. #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke RT @corb21: @LexxClarke nice. very shakespeare of you… || you honour me :o) #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat RT @maggiedana: @thebookaddict But publishing prefers pigeon holes. #litchat [I’ve heard this too] -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @rebeccawoodhead Ha, too funny π #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @BenteGallagher would you say your crossing genres with A CUTTHROAT BUSINESS? #litchat -1:41 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @RebeccaMather no; writing is a business as well as an art expression. #litchat -1:42 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Shorts & flipflops. RT @hprw: @maggiedana is wearing stilettoes and black, buckled PVC as she types. Crack that whip, Ms Dana! #litchat -1:42 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
DotterelPress A writer should write a book as if nobody was going to read it… Edna O’Brien #litchat -1:42 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @corb21 Categorization happens. Fact is, just as many readers use genre labels as the publishers/booksellers/librarians #litchat -1:42 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 One of our children’s authors will now be writing fiction centered on alcohol abuse. I’d say that’s a genre jump. #litchat -1:42 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @mciddangelo Very true, you do have to respect that. #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @MCidDAngelo Nothing wrong with chicklit! *puts on chicklit writer hat* #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @BenRubinstein *big hugs* glad you like that π #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @maggiedana @hprw Don’t spoil the illusion! #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke RT @pitchparlour: Only when the author is the brand. || Is the author as brand a bad thing? #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @karenrivers If she’s cute, I don’t see why that form of whoring myself should be any different. #litchat -1:43 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat @corb21 I don’t know who you work for, so now I’m curious. π #litchat -1:44 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @George9Writer it did not take all day – was too busy to go back on FB. BTW the en dash em dash convo already happened. We both do #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @agnieszkasshoes Whether publishers should discourage their authors from changing genres #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @danish_novelist Why is it hilarious? And why do you not want your work shelved where your readers can find it? Ha! #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo Anne Rice wrote erotica under several names until she wrote vampire novels #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 Sometimes a pen name is needed…if you wrote kids books and wanted to switch to smut. Sometimes their wanted, a way to start fresh #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @George9Writer the big issue wasn’t em en but smashy or spacey ems. #litchat -1:49 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @agnieszkasshoes We’re talking transitions, and crossing over genres. Nice to see you here! #litchat -1:50 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @danish_novelist Blanding? Slip of the type? Or clever Danish wit? #litchat -1:50 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 @kashicat someone needs to π #litchat -1:50 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer Hopefully, when the time comes, I’ll be in a position that I would be encouraged to change publishers #litchat -1:50 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes RT @maggiedana Of course they’re longer, especially if they’re from Texas [watch for the pron bots with posts like that!!] #litchat -1:50 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @corb21 #litchat http://bit.ly/BQWSz -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @rebeccawoodhead Ahh-smashey or spacy en and ems. Chicago manual says smashey. Took me a while but I like them that way now. #litchat -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @pitchparlour @danish_novelist Blanding? Slip of the type? Or clever Danish wit? #litchat http://bit.ly/2ht3df -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @hprw @agnieszkasshoes We’re talking transitions, and crossing over genres. Nice to see you here! #litchat http://bit.ly/2mGdsi -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @rebeccawoodhead @George9Writer the big issue wasn’t em en but smashy or spacey ems. #litchat http://bit.ly/jt6PU -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @mciddangelo Anne Rice wrote erotica under several names until she wrote vampire novels #litchat http://bit.ly/G3yqK -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @George9Writer @agnieszkasshoes Whether publishers should discourage their authors from changing genres #litchat http://bit.ly/1XInnW -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes Writers writing outside their usual genre. I think. #litchat http://bit.ly/PQp7m -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes Ah, genres.I have no objection to genres, but they’re rather like poor lattes – tend to proliferate beyond control #litchat -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings Is shame needed to use a psuedonym within a certain genre? Do genres have scale of acceptability? #litchat -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @hprw @rebeccawoodhead Had understood that the US preference was for the longer em dash; I’m a writer, not an editor. #litchat -1:51 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
bestofchat RT @conniemayfowler Sexual modesty: a new lit trend: http://bit.ly/CE0Ob #litchat @bookchat #authors http://bit.ly/2wt3P -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo … is the reason Anne Rice’s vampire novels were so eloquent and sensual. #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @maggiedana Yes, but that’s if both buyers want to purchase it for their sections. One buyer might likei t more than another #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead what about transitions in life? @maggiedana – writing in the 80s & writing what you do now – how is the experience different? #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana Will do. RT @agnieszkasshoes:Of course theyre longer, especially if theyre from TX [watch for the pron bots with posts like that!] #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead best o chat, we meet again #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes I do worry with “urban fantasy”/”slipstream” etc. U could start thinking y’re writing one thing then find b[B]orders have changed #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @danish_novelist Why is branding funny, and why would you not want your work shelved where readers could find it? #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana I vote for the latter. RT @pitchparlour: @danish_novelist Blanding? Slip of the type? Or clever Danish wit? #litchat -1:52 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @warmstrings You should tell people you write eulogies #litchat -1:53 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes Plus, the recent #magicalrealism chat showed many authors are just totally confused. #litchat -1:53 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
TakensOhRiley This book stuck w me a long time..”Never let me Go” by K. Ishiguro. (ironic given the title!) #litchat -1:53 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
danish_novelist @hprw Well, I’m classified as lit fiction but it should be tragicomical historical novel in translation – a shelf to myself? #litchat -1:54 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead what about the transition between writer and editor? If all writing is re-writing we’re all editors (unless we outsource the job) #litchat -1:54 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @hprw @George9Writer @pitchparlour thx! Eve White advised @authonomy she strongly discouraged transition #litchat -1:54 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @agnieszkasshoes they are still trying to figure out what my series is. #litchat -1:54 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @agnieszkasshoes defining #magicrealism almost as hard as defining @litfic. Bound to cause trouble. #litchat -1:54 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @hprw Good point! At some point we have to think of the readers, and whether or not they can find our work. #litchat -1:55 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenteGallagher @corb21 I wrote a YA mystery last year. Haven’t sold it yet. Not sure I’d consider that a cross-genre, either. It’s all mystery… #litchat -1:55 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @agnieszkasshoes If it takes place on earth: #magicalrealism … if in Middle Earth: #fantasy #litchat -1:55 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes Ha! Missed that one – bet it was illuminating. Not. #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather tweetchat is no longer working for me. Anyone else having difficulties? #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings @BenRubinstein and when is your interior design manual getting released? (#litchat) -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @agnieszkasshoes which is great because agent and editors think I might have created my own subgenre! #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 LOVE this description. I like em smashy too. RT @hprw Ahh-smashey or spacy en and ems. Chicago manual says smashey. #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
DesignRT RT: @BenRubinstein and when is your interior design manual getting released? (#litchat) http://bit.ly/LmEie -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
thebookaddict @TakensOhRiley I have that one, but have not read. It’s good, huh? #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mindywithrow Just getting back to my desk and trying to catch up on yet another feisty #litchat! -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
corb21 something happened to #litchat! guess that’s my cue to go back to work… 4 new followers so far, welcome! -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @RebeccaMather Yes. Collapsed completely! #litchat -1:56 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @mciddangelo I’m boring. I write #unpublishablefic most popular genre of all!! #litchat -1:57 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @warmstrings If you’re good at 1 genre, you could write 2nd and get awful reviews. Publisher just protecting business #litchat -1:57 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee RT: @KatieFforde Fortuantely I only like writing wot I write! #litchat -1:57 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Much easier to get published in the 1980s than now. My writing then was barely passable by today’s standards. #litchat -1:57 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee RT :@KatieFfordeDo think that writers who change genre a lot don’t get the ‘brand’ thing which does sell books. #litchat -1:58 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana LOL!!! RT @agnieszkasshoes: @mciddangelo Im boring. I write #unpublishablefic most popular genre of all!! #litchat -1:58 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw Genres are just a way to help people find work on the shelves. Most books cross over: eg PD James is lit and crime fic, etc. #litchat -1:58 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass I’ve been seeing tweets about “steampunk,” a merging of romance and technology. Can anyone enlighten? #litchat -1:58 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @corb21 Came up in a chat about em and en dashes ages ago. Seemed to catch on. Quite chuffed. Glad you like it. #litchat -1:58 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @hprw I always thought it was “Bicycle Thieves” but apparently not #litchat -1:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @warmstrings HA! Got picked up by a bot! Now I’m gonna get interior design followers! #litchat -1:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @CarolyBurnsBass “Steampunk” was term phrased in mid 90s but seems to have gathered some pace recently #litchat -1:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw Lots of my tweets not appearing from Tweetdeck–sorry if I seem to ignore you. #litchat -1:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass Alternative techie stuff set in Victorian times without outrageous ‘scientific’ contraptions. Sort of. #litchat -1:59 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes As a writer I can’t imagine being poinned to a genre. My voice is nowhere near broken. Way more experimenting needed 2 find it #litchat -2:00 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @CarolyBurnsBass I made the mistake of asking my hubby to google steampunk the other day. He’s now obsessed. #litchat -2:00 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
danish_novelist @hprw Sometimes genres ARE helpful, other times they’re absurd. Why do we have to define everything? I don’t like boxes! #litchat -2:00 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana About steampunk … should be “…WITH outrageous …’ not WITHOUT. #litchat -2:00 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw Trying again: genre is just a filing system, isn’t inescapable. Most books are more than one genre in their hearts. #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
followbike @hprw I always thought it was “Bicycle Thieves” but apparently not #litchat http://snipurl.com/rjx14 -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @rebeccawoodhead haha! #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee @CarolyBurnsBass http://www.bubblecow.co.uk/blog/ did a blog post on it sometime last month #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @hprw Personally, I am encouraged that there is crossover in categories – and that genres are now melding. #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @CarolyBurnsBass Steampunk doesn’t mean romance. It’s fantasy set in Victorian setting, with very evolved steam tech (like magic) #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @danish_novelist Boxes are useful when you need to find something: that’s all genres are. Ways for readers to find new writers. #litchat -2:01 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @George9Writer Genres always have mixed: nothing new there. #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @CarolyBurnsBass Steampunk combines Victorian invention with an alternative setting to create ‘retro-SF’. Qualitee stuff. #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @danish_novelist We’re defined by marketing. #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @danish_novelist As he said, we don’t HAVE to define, we do because it helps readers find what they’re looking for #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mciddangelo @danish_novelist business demograpics #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @BenRubinstein I think of what mags my readers read/what shops/gigs they go to when I’m marketing rather than genre #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
lifescript @CarolyBurnsBass Kathryn Smith did a good post at popculturedivas about Steampunk: http://tinyurl.com/n2tlzu #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
Divacat60 @George9Writer #litchat Do you think that kind of statement actually gets a publisher -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana RT @hprw: @danish_novelist Boxes are useful when you need to find something. Ways for readers to find new writers. #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings Thumbs up or thumbs down to books that self consciously straddle genres? #litchat -2:02 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @BenRubinstein: @CarolyBurnsBass Steampunk doesnt mean romance. Its fantasy set in Victorian setting || Like His Dark Materials? #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @agnieszkasshoes Bicycle Thieves? Have I missed soemthing? #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @RebeccaMather it’s not funny. He’s become a total steampunk nerd. I’m fairly sure he has a ‘file’ about it. Many sketches. #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @warmstrings Up up up. #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @warmstrings Caligula. #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat Here we are again at the end our hour of #litchat power. Thanks to everyone who joined us, do continue as you wish. #LITCHAT -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @CarolyBurnsBass for #steampunk see #zeitgeist & #soinfashionit’salreadyoutofdate #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Sketches? Tell him to look at Ronald Searle. #litchat -2:03 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mizwrite Sorry that was me! @CarolyBurnsBass Kathryn Smith did a good post at popculturedivas about Steampunk: http://tinyurl.com/n2tlzu #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @hprw I’ve always thought so (as a reader, certainly), despite the sometimes regimental attitude taken by some re genre. #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @warmstrings up, if done well #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @LexxClarke Please tell me how Philip Pullman is steampunk? #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat RT @mciddangelo: @danish_novelist business demograpics #litchat [Corporatism stifles human life. Again.] -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
latta #litchat ted hughes seemed to pull it off w/poetry & children’s stories. i am *not* advocating for hughes, however. -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @rebeccawoodhead I love it. My husband and I get obsessed like that too that’s why I laugh. I would love to see his sketches π #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes Agreed. It’s going to be the next Twilight in agents’ inboxes. #litchat -2:04 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @hprw The film Always used to be THE definition of #magicalrealism along with “Spirit of the Beehive” – as a theologian..,. #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat RT @pitchparlour: @LexxClarke Please tell me how Philip Pullman is steampunk? #litchat [Oh yes, I’d put him there too] -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @Divacat60 That depends on the incendiary statement of mine to which you refer, madam. #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @LexxClarke Apart from the chuffing compass. #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @pitchparlour I don’t know that he is, that’s why I asked the question! #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @LexxClarke Actually yes, I think Pullman really helped spark the Steampunk genre. #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
cookiebiscuit @pitchparlour Who said Phillip Pullman is steampunk? No way. #litchat -2:05 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
beecee good chat at #litchat on writers transitioning across genres… sadly my bed is calling me. Night Twitterverse. -2:06 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat Join us on Friday for more TRANSITIONS chat. (Mistakenly thought this Friday was Labor Day, so didn’t schedule guest host.) #LITCHAT -2:06 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @hprw I think of #magicalrealism liek Baroque – about the everyday transcending itself thru its spiritually pure representation #litchat -2:06 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @LexxClarke @cookiebiscuit He isn’t!!! But so many people keep saying he is. #litchat -2:06 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
deberryandgrant RT @maggiedana @danish_novelist We’re defined by marketing. #litchat (so true!) Can’t join in today-on BB. But this caught my attention -2:06 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass Would the DINOTOPIA books be a type of kiddie steampunk? #litchat -2:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour Left me scratching my head & vowing to be less of a dunce next time #litchat -2:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @RebeccaMather I’ll leave him to stew for a bit. They’re doodles right now but in a month they’ll be masterpieces. He worked with.. #litchat -2:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @pitchparlour Lots of pseudomagical technology with Victorian-ish setting makes Pullman very close to steampunk, if not a prototype #litchat -2:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @BenRubinstein @cookiebiscuit @pitchparlour whoops, did I just create controversy?! #litchat -2:07 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
llunalila @pitchparlour the setting in Pullman’s Dark Material is steampunk. Time, vehicles, clothes… & yes the compass, the zepelin… #litchat -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes @hprw Dan, it may be that theology stuff, but you are operating above and beyond us mere mortals. #litchat -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead @RebeccaMather Victorian clockwork for a number of years so they’ll be very detailed. At that point, I’ll nab them! #litchat -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat So if anyone… @MaggieDana… wants to sit in the hotseat on Friday and talk about transitions from children’s to grownup books… #LITCHAT -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour always does that to me, too. #litchat -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat I think Pullman is steampunk, but only very mildly so. #litchat -2:08 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @BenRubinstein Prototype? Let’s create a hashtag another evening, and pull up a few chairs. #litchat -2:09 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @kashicat He’s taken some fantastic steampunk motifs and played with them, but it’s just not steampunk. #litchat -2:09 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour don’t people realise by the time we’ve heard of it, it’s out of date? That’s why I don’t do fashion. #litchat -2:09 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @CarolyBurnsBass Close, need a bit more “technology.” I think the “punk” shows creatives stifling under strict societies #litchat -2:09 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour & probably why I don’t have an agent π #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
RebeccaMather @rebeccawoodhead very cool π #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat @pitchparlour Heh. It seems to me that neither of us can make absolute statements, but need to add “in my opinon” #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead Wombles = steampunk? #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @pitchparlour Can you give an example of classic steampunk (if there is a such thing as classic steampunk). #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour Phillip Reeve is the essence of steampunk. If you want to know what it’s about, read the Mortal Engines Quartet. #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead or Clangers? #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
maggiedana @LitChat I thought you’d cancelled Friday. I’ll DM you. #litchat -2:10 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @CarolyBurnsBass Oops, just did it. Can re-post. #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass @BenRubinstein Why is it not called steamgeek if it needs the technology? π #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead no! Bagpuss = steampunk – the mice on the mechanical mouse organ! #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
kashicat @BenRubinstein A lot of the “behind the scenes” stuff in Pullman is closer to steampunk than what people experience in public #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @pitchparlour Hmm, well I’d say this whole discussion is about how genres are fluid, pragmatic, not recondite #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes Which is a problem to be addressed and solved immediately, if not sooner. #litchat -2:11 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
George9Writer @agnieszkasshoes Dan, I’m going to travel back right now to Victorian England and GET you an agent! #litchat -2:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
BenRubinstein @CarolyBurnsBass Ha, I think the “steam” punk definitely has the tech base covered there #litchat -2:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour @hprw :p baroque painters thought if they made pics “ultra real/perfect” looking wld transport the soul 2 heaven #litchat -2:12 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
mindywithrow @LitChat @MaggieDana Would LOVE a #litchat focused on transitioning from children’s > grownup, as that’s what I’m doing (trying) now! -2:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @BenRubinstein Yes, and no. This discussion pertains to wider reading and knowledge of how genre affects the writing. #litchat -2:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
rebeccawoodhead all the tweets about transgenre confusions got taken out by tweetchat along with my recent tweets. Found them on twitter. Thanks π #litchat -2:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
CarolyBurnsBass Thanks everyone for the steampunk references. Looks like there’s a fascinating new place to explore. (New to me, that is.) #litchat -2:13 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
warmstrings Will keep eyes open for Caligula. Any more info? #litchat -2:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
pitchparlour @agnieszkasshoes Did they really? #litchat -2:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
hprw @agnieszkasshoes The singing does that for me, in church: I love choir voices, and stuff. Back on topic, now… #litchat -2:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
agnieszkasshoes @pitchparlour @hprw hence much tacky Catholic art #magicalrealism films made everyday pure/perfect showing its spiritual value #litchat -2:14 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat RT @word_diva Kristine Kathryn Rusch AKA Kris Nelscott AKA Kristine Dexter OR Rachel Caine or Barbara Hambly. #litchat -2:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LexxClarke @hprw *goosebumps* #litchat -2:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat RT @word_diva Does Nora Roberts/JD Robb count? #litchat -2:15 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
LitChat RT @word_diva Leslie Esdaile to LA Banks to Leslie Esdaile Banks. Romance, paranomal and mystery and movie tie-in. #litchat -2:16 PM Sep 2nd, 2009 |
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