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July 29, 2009 Fine Line Between Fact & Fiction, open chat 2

The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on July 29, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was open discussion The Fine Line Between Fact and Fiction.

LitChat Welcome to #litchat. For the next hour we are discussing THE FINE LINE BETWEEN FACT & FICTION. Join us 4-5 p/et.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
maggiedana Hi, everyone. Looking forward to another lively session on #litchat. Monday’s chat was awesome and flew by way too fast. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
BenRubinstein @LitChat I don’t understand why people get angry over fact/fiction? Is there anyone who really cares? Good writing is good writing #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LitChat If you have questions about THE FINE LINE BETWEEN FACT & FICTION, please send to @litchat w/o hashtag so l can post to #litchat.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LitChat Step into the #litchat salon and introduce yourself. We’re chatting about THE FINE LINE BETWEEN FACT & FICTION.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
GraywolfPress RT @LitChat: Step into the #litchat salon and introduce yourself. We’re chatting about THE FINE LINE BETWEEN FACT & FICTION.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
VanessaDobbs Hi everybody looking forward to tonight’s chat #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat If you have questions about THE FINE LINE BETWEEN FACT & FICTION, please send to @litchat w/o hashtag so l can post to #litchat.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @LitChat I once wrote a novel based on my Jewish grand dad’s life. It was much closer to the truth than his own auto biography #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Eugenia_Kim hello… torn between vacuuming or chatting. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana Twitter dropping posts now and then. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat RT @BenRubinstein don’t understand why ppl get angry over fact/fiction?Is there anyone who really cares?Good writing is goodwriting #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
maggiedana @danish_novelist How did he react to your novel? Was he around to see it published? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
danish_novelist @BenRubinstein I got so mad when I discovered that Harry Potter wasn’t a memoire #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat Hallo! Twitter dropping posts?? *gasp* Unheard of! Ahem. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LitChat @maggiedana Yes, several of my tweets and others haven’t made the search feed. Will try to RP them. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LyndaDW I hate it when an author writes about a real person but adds things that didn’t happen. They should create a fictional character #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Sirenland @LitChat @BenRubinstein Non-Fiction (fact?) is much easier to market. People don’t like to feel lied to so others can sell #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
ecurbmp Hello #litchat! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Eugenia_Kim @danish_novelist: I believe my novel is similar. Sometimes fiction brings more truth, certainly more intimacy. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat If you see RP preceding a tweet, it’s because it didn’t make the feed and I am RePosting (not the same as a RT). #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @mdbenoit Hi! Your post didn’t show up in TweetChat window. Am flipping between twitter and tweetchat to keep up. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
danish_novelist @maggiedana No, he had died. He was born in Palestine among camels but was abducted by a Danish missionary when he was 6 years old #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @danish_novelist So you’re saying the novel could e more objective about your granddad’s life? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
BenRubinstein @Eugenia_Kim Chat with us please! I talked up enough copies of Calligrapher’s at ALA to warrant it πŸ˜‰ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat I’ll log onto Twitter too, to try to catch everyone. Tho it was dropping posts too, last time, as far as I could tell. *sigh* #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
SueCookcom Hello everyone – my first attendance #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LyndaDW thanks for letting me know the search is having problems. I thought I was doing it wrong #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @danish_novelist Wow, that’s amazing. Perfect fodder for a novel. What a history! What’s title of your novel about him? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom @maggiedana is tweetdeck ok to follow conversations #litchat?July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom his sue – OK everyone, I’m in. Will keep as quiet as pos πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Eugenia_Kim @BenRubinstein Yes, good writing; but when a book is sold as memoir or -ography, it promises more reporting than fiction #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
LindseyOConnor You asked for intro. I’m a journalist with a narrative nonfiction wip and a memoir. 4 prior books, but wips 1st in these genres. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @SueCookcom Hello Sue! Any old way to follow is great, long as it works! Twitter’s being a bit slow right now, so hang in there! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Eugenia_Kim Too many technical difficulties have chased me out of the room. Sorry! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom @rebeccawoodhead Hi Rebecca, I don’t think keeping quiet is what it’s all about πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @Eugenia_Kim Novels can restore emotional life and put back the stuff a person has blocked out on purpose #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Doublelattemama @danish_novelist was it marketed as a novel? Did u explain in either preface or afterward what was based in fact? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom I always get in trouble on litchat πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @BenRubinstein I disagree with you. Consider James Frey’s “memoir” that was pure fiction. I don’t want to be manipulated like that. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana here… what are we chatting about? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom So what is the feeling about the fine line between fact and fiction. Aren’t we always told ‘write what you know’?! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
maggiedana Sue and I will help keep you in check! RT @rebeccawoodhead: @SueCookcom I always get in trouble on litchat πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
danish_novelist @maggiedana It’s “only” out in Danish and French. Le Reveur de Palestine (The Dreamer from Palestine) #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Topic: The Fine Line Between Fact and Fiction. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom @rebeccawoodhead This is my first so i’ll probably spell trouble too #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
iainbroome Hello – anyone able to tell me when it kicks off GMT? I always get timezone-confused with chats! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LindseyOConnor Fact or fiction: Poynter’s Roy Peter Clark said “If you say there’s a dog, I want there to have really been a dog.” I agree. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana right – Not usually a big fan of historical fiction so was really shocked at home much I loved Jamie Ford’s book #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead Still can’t get it in England – though you probably can on Amazon – Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat Q1 fm @hangingnoodles Neuroscientists say brains not built to recall accurately. Are we never impartial observers? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @LindseyOConnor Of course that has to allow for metaphors etc. There might “be a dog” in some other than literal sense & still true #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
SueCookcom After 25 years in journalism, I always spend rather too long on research instead of plunging into the story #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
ecurbmp Don’t we all put some fiction into our facts? Think the old game ‘Telephone’ and how a word could change with retelling. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @SueCookcom But your research has paid off. Your novels are spellbinding. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
danish_novelist @mdbenoit It was based on his own auto biography, diaries, and MY imagination. My first best seller in Denmark #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom All the writers & publishers are lovely. Don’t worry about punctuation either: exclamation marks = twitter glitter #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
RTjournalism RT @SueCookcom after 25 years in journalism, i always spend rather too long on research instead of plunging into the story #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from Retwittering
SueCookcom @maggiedana Thanks – one review of my last book I got said i had done too much! ‘Too much science’ she said #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
maggiedana @iainbroome #litchat 9-10 GMT. On now.July 29, 2009 from web
Doublelattemama @danish_novelist I’m writing a book this fall- same concept-amazing life, lots of missing pieces. Curious how much explaining u did #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom Jilly Cooper takes the same approach – research-wise #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @SueCookcom I just can’t imagine there being “too much science.” <boggling> #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LindseyOConnor @SueCookcom Knowing when to quit researching and start writing’s always hard. Write early, but go back and forth as needed. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
latta #litchat look fwd to summary. twtr on bb difficult; chats close to impossible.July 29, 2009 from mobile web
maggiedana @SueCookcom I disagree. I think you had a perfect blend of science and story. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LEEandLOW @SueCookcom Readers appreciate when writers do their research & document well. It’s a sign of respect for readers & for the story. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat Re Q1: I think we can’t recall entirely accurately. I still think we can come close, by various means. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
VanessaDobbs @LEEandLOW great point #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana RT @LEEandLOW: @SueCookcom Readers appreciate when writers do their research & document well. Sign of respect for readers & story. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @SueCookcom I tend to research a topic to death, plus for me it’s also a great procrastination tactic. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @SueCookcom Way I look at it is, you can research say, a dentist, know nought about profession, but have similar life experiences. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana Invoke the 5th? RT @kashicat: Re Q1: I think we cant recall entirely accurately. I still think we can come close, by various means. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
ecurbmp RP: Q1: Don’t we all put some fiction into our facts? Think the old game ‘Telephone’ and how a word could change with retelling. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TwitterFox
SueCookcom @kashicat i@maggiedana it’s not poss to please everyone I guess. Insight to one person is tedium to another #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat I remember s/one saying Dorothy Dunnett never wrote ab. any place she hadn’t visited. Don’t know if true, but her bks read that way #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
VanessaDobbs @CarolyBurnsBass a tacticI used when writing my masters assignments #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue #litchat for anyone interested. Discussion now.July 29, 2009 from web
marybrebner @DYockman when they start lying..I mean making things up?~Oh, so true. Remember James Frey? Dude, it’s fiction. Just say it! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @mdbenoit True. Tho I think there can be *ways* of weaving science into story that makes it really good #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @Doublelattemama It’s funny that fiction often can get closer to “truth” than some one’s memoire.#litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead I kind of revise the factual stuff first and it becomes the characters ‘thinking’ it after a while, then I go back and correct #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma Hey, everyone – research gives authors “spice” 4 story. Research can bog down author, slow writing, but not reading experience #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @CarolyBurnsBass Do you research to death bc. you’re worried there’ll be one fact you end up getting wrong? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
SueCookcom @Antoniablue Exactly – find out everything poss about the life of a dentist, then add the human stuff you know from own experience #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
George9Writer Changing facts into fiction (a gross oversimplification anyway) is where the art comes in. Bad memory makes better art? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
iainbroome I think it’s important to research thoroughly, but just as important to show restraint when you apply it in your work. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
marybrebner Freakin’ Twitter keeps eating my #litchat posts. Guess I’ll just read the transcript. Later!July 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @danish_novelist – true! all stories worth fictionalizing a bit RE: fiction often can get closer to “truth” than memoir. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Doublelattemama @danish_novelist I’m sure that’s true! I’ll have less 2 go on than u-no diary, no autobiography, but I’ll stay true 2 what I know #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
VanessaDobbs Mine too!RT @marybrebner: Freakin Twitter keeps eating my #litchat posts. Guess Ill just read the transcript. Later! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @kashicat Yes, that’s certainly one of the reasons. Contributed by my graying brain. I must keep written records of everything. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom do you find you need to remove some of your fave details so the plot doesn’t suffer? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @SueCookcom Yeah. Eg: I may have been bitten by dog in the past (see I put dog in there!), & so might my dentist. Can tell truth. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @kashicat @CarolyBurnsBass I’m currently researching my WIP to pieces. MUST back away from google & progress plot! #writegoal #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana <— going to stick w/Twitter for #litchat, even if it makes me want to hurl laptop across room. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom Is doing so much research a sign of insecurity though? Should we just go wild with our imagination? Give it free reign? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LindseyOConnor @mdbenoit If you say a dog, I want there to be a dog, meaning lots readers want narrative & memoir to be factual. Literary but true #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from Nambu
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom I fight with my characters over it. I want my great research to be seen but they’re certain people want them first #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat Interesting. I’m seeing about 4-5 times # of posts on Twitter as on TweekDeck. Yet I can’t reply on Twitter. Grrrr. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @wiremamma A noveli can put things into a larger perspective in a way that a memoir cannot #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
George9Writer @maggiedana Could be. Depends on how you use the words. Fiction is all about making up stories anyway. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
wiremamma @vanessadobbs @marybrebner – mine are disappearing as well. Hello! *taps mike* is this thing on? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @George9Writer Hi! Brilliant work on the WIP! I think this is what I’m saying – need to learn it then put it aside #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Doublelattemama @wiremamma &it seems 2 me that some fictionalizing can draw focus to key points/theme-A portrayal of facts is hard to interpret #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
iainbroome @rebeccawoodhead Absolutely, taking bits out is the most difficult thing, but a complete necessity. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead RT @George9Writer …Fiction is all about making up stories anyway. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom @rebeccawoodhead I try to keep the fave details in if poss, but sometimes you have to ‘murder your babies’ and cut fave bits #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
100_indecisions @kashicat I def. do that–paranoid someone somewhere knows more about [tiny detail] than I do and will catch me not having a clue. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
George9Writer @rebeccawoodhead Thx Rebecca, and Hi! Yes, 82,500 words in a month. I need a health spa and a vacation. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
jkoyanagi @rebeccawoodhead Yes. It’s good to have the information stored away in my head, but I don’t want to bog down the reader. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @iainbroome @rebeccawoodhead – don’t they call that “murdering your darlings” or something? plot progression is key. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom trickiest bit isn’t it? Hate that bit. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana I wonder … do fiction writers tend to remove more researched details than do non-fiction writers? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
SueCookcom @Chadwickauthor Do you make sure you know your characters as if they were real before you start writing? Then let them grow #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @jkoyanagi @wiremamma @iainbroome with you on that #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana @George9Writer 82k words in a month? That’s phenomenal. Amazing. D’you write fic or non-fic? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Anne_Frasier wonder if heartbreaking work of staggering genius would be considered memoir today? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @george9writer – I’d be gibbering in a corner after 82k in amonth. well done. I have 30k to go by end of august! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
RebeccaMather #litchat just joining in. I’d like to write about Portugal. Never been there and likely won’t soon. Should that keep me from writing it?July 29, 2009 from web
LindseyOConnor @George9Writer I’m in awe and envy of your word count. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
ibeforem #litchat I think memoirs *should* be vetted, because the reader makes an emotional commitment to a story when they believe it is true.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @wiremamma Maybe just get it written, then fact-check during edit? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
Antoniablue @LindseyOConnor No, he would experiecne what I had, because I was bitten, so I know how it is. The story would be fictional though. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana He’s done brilliantly hasn’t he? Totally amazing. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma You never know when you’ll need it RT: @jkoyanagi information stored away in my head, but I don’t want to bog down the reader. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
danish_novelist @maggiedana Yes and they should. A novel should NEVER brag about its research. The story comes first #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
maggiedana @jkoyanagi Having that information in your head makes one’s writing richer, even if those details don’t make it to the page. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
iainbroome @maggiedana I imagine non-fiction is a different beast, but the research you include may depend on whether it’s an opinion piece. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
George9Writer @maggiedana I write novels. My first one’s “first draft” took four years or so; this one went a bit faster #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom – piggy-backing on your last q… My characters are the most important thing to me. I know EVERYTHING about them #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
RebeccaMather just joining in. I’d like to write about Portugal. Never been there and likely won’t soon. Should that keep me from writing it? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @LindseyOConnor Also, even if I hadn’t been bitten by dog, I had ferret hanging off finger, so could use that expeirence perhaps. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
100_indecisions @kashicat Spec genres are hard in their own right, but at least no one can say “I’ve been to [planet] & it doesn’t look like that!” #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
5M4B Madeleine L’Engle said that every nonfiction piece is part fiction, and all fiction has some truth. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from Seesmic
danish_novelist @jkoyanagi Amen. Good research is never about impressing the reader. You merely want believability #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
SueCookcom @Chadwickauthor completely agree that research should be as invisible as possible in the story. Nowt worse than feeling lectured at #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @RebeccaMather I’ve got same question about London where sequel to my 1st bk happens. Never been there. And 3rd bk wd be in India! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @RebeccaMather No!! You don’t need to murder someone to write about murder. At least… I hope not *looks around nervously* #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @RebeccaMather I’d think if non-fic, best to go to Portugal to research it; if fiction, then going there not so important. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
George9Writer @RebeccaMather One word re Portugal: RESEARCH #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
VanessaDobbs @RebeccaMather No! I’m told Stef Penney had never visited and tenderness of wolves was brilliant #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
pitchparlour @maggiedana For fiction writers, researched details are inspiration, for non-fiction writers, they are footnotes. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
George9Writer @LindseyOConnor Thanks Lindsey! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @100_indecisions Heehee! That’s why I wrote fantasy stories so many yrs bf I had nerve to write “real world” story #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat Give it to a Londoner to read for accuracy – have a word with someone like @TamsynTweetie #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @RebeccaMather Give it a try. Read everything you can similar to yours, then have yours read by others who know the area well. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LindseyOConnor @Antoniablue LOL #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @doublelattemama – Agreed – if true memoir, how would you know how secondary characters are thinking/feeling? Tricky. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
RebeccaMather @George9Writer #litchat. That’s what I would rely most heavily on. And gorgeous photos.July 29, 2009 from web
danish_novelist @RebeccaMather Of course. You can create your own Portugal. But if you’re a social realist you have to go. Great country! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @rebeccawoodhead @rebeccamather – be careful about researching nefarious activities as well. Homeland security is watching. *wink* #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead I had an online friend from London who helped me with Tube stops that wd be abandoned some day #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
wiremamma Does anyone use GoogleEarth for research? I needed a perspective from a certain location. Didn’t even have to book a flight! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
George9Writer @JSColley Oh the obtusity! More acuity please! πŸ˜‰ Janet, just do a Twitter search, use search term like #litchat or #writechatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @wiremamma argh! *eyes darting* #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead I feel same way ab. my characters. I live in their heads. I know them better than the world. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
RebeccaMather RebeccaMather@kashicat Beautiful!#litchat travel anywhere with research photos and imagination. Ideally love to actually be there though hm?July 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @CarolyBurnsBass @RebeccaMather – I try to stay away from certain genres when I’m writing. dont want my voice tainted… thoughts? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LisaPietsch @wiremamma I use GoogleEarth all the time. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @RebeccaMather I’d rather be there in person too. I’ll get help w/London, but by golly, I will *GO* to India bf bookk #3! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @rebeccawoodhead Thank God that there’s this thing called imagination, or I wouldn’t want to hang out with horror writers #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead I’m pretty sure Emily Bronte never had a lusty run in with a bad man on the moors but she wrote an awesome Heathcliff #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @rebeccawoodhead – big bro’s watching! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Doublelattemama @RebeccaMather I vote that u should write it anyway. Optimal solution is to go but u can interview, research, etc #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
maggiedana @wiremamma Am opposite. When writing (women’s fiction) I read lots of WF. Find it invigorating. Am careful to keep own voice, tho. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
jkoyanagi @wiremamma I admit to worrying about that from time to time, hah. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @danish_novelist – I’m still not certain I want to hang out around horror authors. At least, not in the dark, or near cliffs. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @rebeccawoodhead Harsh, but necessary, I think. Realising what ISN’T relevant is so hard too, sometimes. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
George9Writer @wiremamma You’ll get there. Each book has its own pace. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
danish_novelist @wiremamma If you have a good voice it won’t disappear just because you read Dan Brown or the Bible #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @5M4B I’d think fiction has to have some elements of truth to be palatable, let alone enjoyable. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
iainbroome My novel is about caring for someone who’s had a stroke and I had no direct experience – it can be done! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
richardwiles @SueCookcom Hi Sue. Hope you’re well…I have numerous books in preparation that mix fact and historical fiction. I see no problem #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead @danish_novelist that’s what I’m saying – scary thought! Good thing there’s a concept called ‘fiction’ eh? πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @wiremamma I stay away from certain genres all the time. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @maggiedana – you have such a beautiful, clear voice — I doubt if you could ever sound like anyone else. πŸ˜‰ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rottenperson @CarolyBurnsBass Like what? #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana Wow, thanks! RT @wiremamma: you have such a beautiful, clear voice — I doubt if you could ever sound like anyone else. πŸ˜‰ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Vigorio I’ve always heard write what you know about. That’s why I do fantasy. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @iainbroome Course! And you’ll have cared for someone in different ways, love, sympathy, empathy, so you’ve a head start. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @Antoniablue heartbreakingly so. This is why I always have a breakdown at the ‘tricky middle bit’ when my characters take over #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma Elements of truth are what season good writing @kashicat – I just need to remember that and keep going with WIP. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat RT @danish_novelist: Thank God that there’s this thing called imagination, or I wouldn’t want to hang out with horror writers #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LitChat RT @20xJENNY: Ultimately the author is responsible for stating whether his/her story is fact or fiction. –more– #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
wiremamma @maggiedana – no problem. I got your back. πŸ˜‰ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
pussreboots @wiremamma Tainted how? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
RebeccaMather @wiremama and @rebeccawoodhead lol! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
LisaRomeo @wiremamma In nonfic, want to stay in narrator’s head, not wander into another’s mind, unless understood it’s only what narr THINKS #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
George9Writer @RebeccaMather Research may well include going there, even living there. Look at William T Vollmann’s level of research #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
Doublelattemama @wiremamma depends on point of view-3rd person doesn’t necessarily know what everybodys thinking- sometimes all we know are actions #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
iainbroome I recently blogged about writing without upsetting friends and family – has anyone had to dodge this metaphorical bullet? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
danish_novelist @wiremamma The most poisonous writers are the sickly sweet ones. The dark ones get it out in their writing. they’re pussycats #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rottenperson @LitChat Or something in between? #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana RT @aecbks RT @jennybent: Writers: try ending each chapter with a cliff hanger. Works for most any kind of fiction. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
RebeccaMather #litchat Oh I’m writing about what I know right now my friends and it’s not all that pretty πŸ™‚ let’s just say “potty-training” lol!July 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @pussreboots – After research for _All or Nothing_ & immersing in history of Am. west, I stopped reading anything and just wrote. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @rottenperson I don’t enjoy genre fiction written with specific forumlas in mind. You can probably figure out what types I mean. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
linc0lnpark @danish_novelist Yeah! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rottenperson @maggiedana Works with nonfiction, too. We’re all in the entertainment business. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Antoniablue @iainbroome Not dodged yet but would say any similarities completely coincidental. I’d forgotten about you bashing pet etc etc. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
bridelines #litchat looking 4 literary agent for nonfiction humor book. please contact bridelines if you know anyone with interestJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat tweetchat dropped tweets just found.. Don’t you love living in their heads? I always resist for a bit but then it’s magic #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Best_Books #litchat if a biography/autobiography has embellished stories do we really care? Do we require such memoirs to b reliable historical source?July 29, 2009 from web
spacemonkeygaz @iainbroome My novel is about a rock star who has an affair with a glamour model, and I had no direct experience – it can be done! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rottenperson @CarolyBurnsBass Me, too. But they’re good to study if you’re a writer, yes? #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @rottenperson Good point. Those cliffhanger endings are what keep me turning page of non-fic even when I know the outcome! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat RP @LitChat: RT @20xJENNY: –cont– How could Rosenblat’s editor have known? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead I can’t really even start writing story, most of the time, if I’m not living in head of at least 1 character #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
George9Writer Re Memoirs, vetting facts: as a writer I found the level of dishonesty in a certain “memoir” to be deplorable, likely a media stunt #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
UnionSqPress @Best_Books If stories = embellished, that must be acknowledged. Authors notes are great ways of setting up the “rules” for the bk. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
SueCookcom @RebeccaMather Lucky you! My kids flown nest now, but I’m the poorer for material! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
CarolyBurnsBass @rottenperson Eek. I did my study, now I’ve moved on. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @doublelattemama – true. but in 3rd person, you can change characters POV from one chapter to next #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rottenperson @Best_Books Deciding what to leave in and what to take out is one thing; embellishing may be something else. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @SueCookcom Grandchildren will (I promise) provide much fodder for fiction. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
QcattQ @Best_Books I EXPECT biography/ autobiography to include embellished stories. Bit boring otherwise. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LindseyOConnor @UnionSqPress @Best_Books Give me authors notes w/your “rules” and I’ll follow you anywhere. Lie (embellished if I don’t know) grrr #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @lisaRomeo – in Nonfic – you still can shift characters, yes? Honestly, I read mostly fiction unless it’s reference books. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat I fight it out until I’m in their heads, then I edit ‘as’ them – if they wouldn’t say it, it goes. I’m brutal. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
SueCookcom Bowing out now – really enjoyed the last hour x #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
linc0lnpark @UnionSqPress a disclaimer, so to speak… #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat Trying again– RT @20xJENNY: –cont– How could Rosenblat’s editor have known? #litchat #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
RebeccaMather @SueCookcom Thank you! πŸ™‚ it is lots of fun isn’t it. #litchat #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @Doublelattemama I’ll look into tweetgrid. Thanks for tip. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
20xJenny Even facts are open to interpretation. Two differing biographies on Harry Truman in college taught me how to think critically. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
Vigorio If I read a bio I want it to be all truth – nothing embellished. That sounds like lying. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @SueCookcom thanks for chatting. Bye for now πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead You must find that they take over the story too, right? Sometimes take it where they want to go, rather than you? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rottenperson @LindseyOConnor Yeah, and the rules better be posted at the entrance, not exit. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
CarolyBurnsBass @UnionSqPress Embellishment is an element of good writing, fiction or non. Falsehoods are another story entirely. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Doublelattemama @wiremamma you absolutely can – just pointing out that u don’t necessarily have to be in the head of everybody #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
RebeccaMather @20xJenny I agree. I think we all see through our own lense. Our own experience and that’s largely where we write from. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat – oh yeah! My characters ruin my life. I lose all ownership of the story but it’s not mine, it’s theirs so… fair enough #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @20xJenny That was why I mentioned on Monday that we almost have to read several bios of same person, to get near full perspective #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
Doublelattemama If novel is based loosely on fact, 1) would u explain it to reader? 2) if so, where-preface or epilogue? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead What I find, with my char’s, is that the direction they want to go is usually better than my plan. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
CarolyBurnsBass @LitChat When memoirs have such a miraculous coincidence as Rosenblat’s, I think an editor should do some fact checking. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat like I said, aside from the odd sub-plot I guide the plot until the mid-point then there’s a big scrap between me & them #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LindseyOConnor @rottenperson Entrance rules make me love you. Exit rules like you. No rules, suspect you. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
LitChat We’ve come to the end of our posted hour of #litchat. Feel free to continue the convo, but come back on Friday at 4 p/et.July 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
StackedBlog @best_books Biography, for posterity, yes, we care. Autobios & memoirs are tainted by personal bias which is to be expected. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
LisaRomeo @linc0lnpark I know what you mean. Well then I guess “lie becomes truth” huh? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
UnionSqPress @LindseyOConnor Ex: my aus of a crime bk are clear about parts of the case where no one knows the truth & explain their conjectures #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Best_Books @Vigorio wot do u consider embellisment-authors may not make up story bt can they really remember intricacies of childhood events? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
RebeccaMather @kashicat @rebeccawoodhead What I find, with my char’s, is that the direction they want to go is usually better than my plan.#litchat I likeJuly 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma RT: @kashicat @rebeccawoodhead What I find, with my char’s, is that the direction they want to go is usually better than my plan. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rottenperson @LindseyOConnor Sounds like a dating service Web site. Sorry. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
kashicat @RebeccaMather But don’t you think we can write s/o else’s experience bc we’ve got imagination? We’re writers, after all. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead it’s the same for characters – they change so they have to call it #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
UnionSqPress @CarolyBurnsBass Agree. Embellishment creates flavor. But it must stem from solid research and not purely invention of details. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @Vigorio Oh yes! It’s the kind of “filler” chars I put in sometimes who become crucial to whole plot, that I love. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rottenperson @LindseyOConnor P.S. But in a good way. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rottenperson @Best_Books All an author has to do is say, “as I recall…” #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
linc0lnpark @LisaRomeo Linear thinking seems more of a moot point in a world where lines are rarely straight, IMHO… you know? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
20xJenny @kashicat completely agree + also with your RT: I mean, all our historical sources are written from “a pt of view” #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
rebeccawoodhead when you plan your life you’re not the person you were when you reach each point so you only know if the plot works when you arrive #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
Vigorio @rottenperson but shouldn’t the basis for the story be provable with facts? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Best_Books @UnionSqPress at what level do u declare story is embellished ?Must u admit that conversations not exact/scenary not remembered? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma RT: @rottenperson @Best_Books All an author has to do is say, “as I recall…” #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
rebeccawoodhead it’s the same for characters – they change so they have to call it #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
LitChat RP: On Friday @rottenperson aka Gary Buslik joins us as guest host. Save your questions for him on Friday, 4-5 p/et in #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma @rebeccawoodhead – I guess that’s why writing is rewriting, huh? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
20xJenny @RebeccaMather So true. That’s why Mary Karr’s LIAR’S CLUB is one of my all-time favorites. Love her lens. (oops) #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
LindseyOConnor @UnionSqPress Love your example. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from Nambu
Best_Books #litchat @kashicat absolutely – biogs etc only 1 source among many and therefore embellishment to a certain degree is presumed in some form.July 29, 2009 from web
rottenperson Have to sign out now. Look forward to guest hosting on Friday. You’re a terrific group. #LitChatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
wiremamma Great chat everyone! Nice to see you all… #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
maggiedana @rottenperson Looking forward to seeing you again. Bye! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
alexisgrant Sorry to pop in midstream, but what’s the #litchat topic?July 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @rottenperson See ya later! #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
Best_Books #litchat @QcattQ exactly – comes back 2 the point that book must be entertaining & stories chosen and told for maximum readership potentialJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead Ha! Well done. πŸ™‚ #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
alexisgrant Ooops! Missed #litchat. Next time!July 29, 2009 from web
UnionSqPress @Best_Books Another recent ex: COVERT, about infiltrating the mob, has a note about how undercover officers are trained to recall. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
rebeccawoodhead @wiremamma yep. I used to be a singer though and there’s something about that first ‘take’ – happens in writing too #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
UnionSqPress @Best_Books COVERT doesn’t have endnotes, so we found a way to explain how the author remembered as much as he did: It was his job. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
RebeccaMather Great to connect with all of you. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
20xJenny RT @RebeccaMather: Great to connect with all of you. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
UnionSqPress @LindseyOConnor Thanks! And now I’m signing out of #litchat. Off to edit!July 29, 2009 from web
linc0lnpark Without embellishment, there would be no HOUSE OF LEAVES, for example. It is a dirty thing that can be a jewel in the right hands. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
iainbroome I’m not sure about ‘planning’ characters. Have a good profile and a narrative for them to live in, but feel free to let them wander #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
Best_Books #litchat i know this coversation has ended-and sorry for late arrival-but do we think politicians memoirs for e.g really tell whole truth…July 29, 2009 from web
VeggieV @QcattQ hi hon! did you enjoy that flourish into wed #litchat?July 29, 2009 from web
wiremamma @rebeccawoodhead – rewrites get easier the more we write, yes? We all want a clean “first take” but must keep fingers “singing” #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @20xJENNY This isn’t to say I disbelieve in objective knowledge. I just think it takes lots of research about events. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
BenRubinstein @CarolyBurnsBass But drama, which is the same in fiction/memoir, is what appeals. What’s the difference? #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
20xJenny @kashicat I hear you. My favorite historians use a balance of primary sources–mostly quotes, and often opposing views. More #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @20xJENNY Hee! Double post, there. But yes — that’s what I like. A rounded approach, w/as much primary background as possible. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
kashicat @20xJENNY This was why I loved John Romer’s early Egypt documentaries — packed w/good research. Unlike Hist. Channel dreck today #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
herstorian Missed #litchat because I read the time wrong. Catching up now.July 29, 2009 from web
kashicat @20xJENNY They seem to cater to lowest common denominator. Plus most sensationalist stuff. Demeaning, & very popular. Ugh. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetDeck
CarolyBurnsBass @BenRubinstein Drama can be achieved in good narrative non-fiction and memoir while still maintaining truth. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from TweetChat
herstorian @UnionSqPress If stories = embellished, that must be acknowledged. Authors notes are gr8 ways of setting up the “rules” for the bk. #litchatJuly 29, 2009 from web
FredRamey #litchat. Too late. I wanted to say A figure in a memoir I pubbed long ago asked “Is it true?” The author said “Well, it’s not Rashomon.”July 29, 2009 from web

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