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July 20, 2009 Finding the Fountain of Youth in Fiction, open chat 1

The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on July 20, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was open discussion Finding the Fountain of Youth in Fiction.

LitChat Welcome to #litchat. This week’s topic is FINDING THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH IN FICTION. Join us for the next hour for great litchat. -1:02 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @LitChat Hello. Am really looking forward to this week’s LitChat sessions. Fingers crossed we don’t get bogged down. #litchat -1:04 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat If you have questions to pose to the chat, please send to @LitChat w/o hashtag and I will post to group. Thanks. #litchat -1:05 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana RT @LitChat Welcome to #litchat. This week’s topic is FINDING THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH IN FICTION. Join us for next hour for great litchat. -1:07 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat Q1 How does fiction keep readers young–at least young at heart? #litchat -1:08 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana Q1 I’d think that reading about older protags who tackle life head on helps keep readers young at heart. #litchat -1:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead righty-ho, fab followers. Prepare for the hashtags – #litchat time – back soon -1:10 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana RT @rebeccawoodhead: righty-ho, fab followers. Prepare for the hashtags – #litchat time – back soon. Same from @maggiedana, too! #litchat -1:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant I think that fiction allows the reader to be any age. When I was young, I wanted to be the older heroine, couldn’t wait in fact #litchat -1:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @deberryandgrant Good point. Do you still want to be the younger heroine? #litchat -1:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @LitChat and now that i’m no longer a young’un, I find myself able to reverse that feeling and identify w/younger protatonists #litchat -1:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel This is my first Twitter Chat. I suspect I’m already doing something wrong. #litchat -1:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant I identify with a character that is someone I like or would like to be like, age is less important to me than who the character is #litchat -1:13 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat @kimchatel Welcome! You’re doing fine. Just pop into the convo and try to stay on topic. Enjoy. #litchat -1:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @kimchatel Welcome, Kim. Hang in there. I’m pretty clunky at this myself. #litchat -1:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
BizarreJC I like to become people that I have no clue about. #litchat -1:16 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @deberryandgrant Me, too. I find the age of the character as unimportant as the sex, religion or race of the protag. #litchat -1:16 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant Age is a fact–we are what the calendar says, but it is also more importantly a factor-only part of the equation #litchat -1:17 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant In fiction, you are as young/old/adventurous as we want to be. That’s what makes books so amazing. We put ourselves into the story #litchat -1:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
RebeccaMather Nervous about participating. Accidentally posted personal msg via my phone couple nights ago didn’t realize til morning. Embrsing #litchat -1:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel I think that deep POV is the key rather than age. I can identify with just about any character as long as the POV is well done #litchat -1:19 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf I don’t think age matters as long as the character is sympathetic and believable. #litchat -1:19 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @RebeccaMather just throw yourself in. We’re all nice. Just remember not to mention Kindle to @maggiedana and you’ll be fine #litchat -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @kimchatel Do you have a favorite style of POV? #litchat -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @RebeccaMather LOL this is a fairly tame and and pretty safe space… #litchat -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
Viapersona #litchat Fiction stimulates the imagination, shows us different parts of life. This reminds us of new potential, and youth is in potential. -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots A character’s age can be a benefit to a book. I will take sillier behavior from younger protagonists more easily. #litchat -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana <— shoots Kindles on sight. #litchat -1:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana 😛 #litchat -1:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
househomeauthor I love to read about protagonists who are in the same life stage I’m in, or one I’ve been through. Love to relate. #litchat -1:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @maggiedana I don’t care what POV is used as long as it doesn’t impede w/ the story telling. #litchat -1:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @Viapersona youth is potential–but so is life. As long as we’re alive, we have potential. We limit ourselves with age “tags” #litchat -1:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
RebeccaMather LOL Thanks for the encouragement and sense of humor ;0) #litchat -1:22 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @CarolyBurnsBass well put #litchat -1:29 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana RT @rebeccawoodhead: Writing taboos well is difficult #litchat -1:29 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @rebeccawoodhead If writing was easy, everyone would be doing it. #litchat -1:29 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @househomeauthor but were u interested in reading about the menses in general? I thought not. Some stuff just isn’t fiction worthy #litchat -1:29 PM Jul 20th, 2009
hermitpaul @LitChat I did not want to recognize that the tweed-wearing Robert Langdon would have sex with a self-proclaimed yoga master. #litchat -1:29 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass Q2 No taboos. Life happens at every age and the telling/showing of it is what drives fiction. #litchat -1:30 PM Jul 20th, 2009
Viapersona @deberryandgrant Age “tags” are indeed limiting! “Old” need not mean “awful”, yet so many still long for youth rather than age. #litchat -1:30 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I wrote about a taboo in one book – won’t say which one or it’ll spoil it – and it was the most impossible thing to write #litchat -1:30 PM Jul 20th, 2009
zumayabooks @scgreen Sadly, I sometimes think everyone IS doing it. LOL @rebeccawoodhead #litchat -1:30 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @Viapersona We live in a youth-oriented culture. The old are invisible. #litchat -1:31 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice Got a senior citizen pot dealer in my latest. Only deals to other seniors & is based on real person! Age means little. #litchat #litchat -1:31 PM Jul 20th, 2009
hermitpaul #litchat I found the scenes of graphic sadism & rape in “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” to be lacking. Taboo & badly done, too. -1:31 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @carleenbrice Pot-dealing senior is former flower child, yes? #litchat -1:32 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @maggiedana Nope. Former army guy supplementing his social security. #litchat -1:33 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @scgreen Taboos are particularly tricky. To take your judgement out of the equation and write the character’s experience is hard. #litchat -1:33 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana The old aren’t invisible any more. The old are recycled revolutionaries #litchat -1:33 PM Jul 20th, 2009
hermitpaul #litchat @CarolyBurnsBass It’s only important (age, race, etc) if the story makes it relevant. For example, books by women about Iraq. -1:34 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Good one! #litchat -1:34 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana RT @rebeccawoodhead: @maggiedana The old aren’t invisible any more. The old are recycled revolutionaries. #litchat -1:35 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark Hi! May I join the major topic? #litchat -1:35 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf I enjoy younger antag b/c I feel like I can experience through them opportunities I didn’t have the chance to. #litchat -1:35 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @jbaddorf Why I enjoy Entourage. #litchat -1:36 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @hermitpaul Bad writing should always be taboo. But subject matter-then we get into censorship issues… #litchat -1:37 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen Tweetchat is dropping my posts. I’ll try again… #litchat -1:38 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @deberryandgrant It’s a pity that bad writing isn’t censored out of existence! #litchat -1:38 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @rebeccawoodhead I can see that. Not only removing yourself, but inserting the character’s judgement that might differ from yours. #litchat -1:38 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @Viapersona And those who long for youth can find it in fiction the same way those who long for adventure or intrigue do I imagine #litchat -1:38 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf Older antags help me look for opportunities I don’t want to miss as I grow older 🙂 #litchat -1:38 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @maggiedana @deberryandgrant But then we’d all have to agree what’s bad writing. #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @maggiedana but where else would you get sparkly vampires? #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie I’m translating story about man struggling w/ post-retirement changes in social status. Very true-to-life and sad. #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @carleenbrice Point taken. #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @scgreen Have to agree you do have a point about the vampires, there. #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @carleenbrice There was nothing tame about the roaring 20s – the youth of that time are clocking 3 figures. We’re all modern now! #litchat -1:39 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye I find that the age of the writer can be easily detected by language use and genre choice. #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @carleenbrice @maggiedana–well since it’s not going to happen, we’ll have to make our own bad writing taboo lists LOL #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead Am reading THE BOLTER, about Idina Sackville (20s). Boy, did they live on the edge. #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @thewaryeye How so? #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @rebeccawoodhead I was just with my elderly in-laws and they were treated as quite invisible on the streets of Chicago. Depends on #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie Is there a sudden change in a person’s social status upon retirement in the US? Is there a book you can recommend? #litchat -1:40 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat Q3 Is there a universal age to the perfect protagonist? #litchat -1:41 PM Jul 20th, 2009
RebeccaMather @scgreen I’m writing about something I find very difficult to take my own judgments out of and write purely from character POV #litchat -1:41 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @LitChat Q3 Ageless? #litchat -1:41 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @LitChat and does it matter if they are male or female–an even ickier question… #litchat -1:41 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @LitChat It depends on which reader you ask. #litchat -1:42 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @thewaryeye So do writers change genres as they age? Or do genres change with generations? #litchat -1:42 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @LitChat No. #litchat -1:42 PM Jul 20th, 2009
carleenbrice @linc0lnpark Good point. #litchat -1:42 PM Jul 20th, 2009
zumayabooks CBS cancelled show Joan of Arcadia not for lack of viewers but because viewers were mostly 50+. #litchat -1:42 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead In Jamie Ford’s Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet, the main character is presented as a child and old man. I love both #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @pussreboots I believe writers can change genres with whim… Just as actors can change roles. The imagination is boundless. #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
murzee @maggiedana Invisibility is subversive #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots Q3: I hope not. Finding that “perfect age” would make fiction boring. #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat Great question. @thewaryeye So do writers change genres as they age? Or do genres change with generations? #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @zumayabooks Silly CBS. Don’t they follow the money? #litchat -1:43 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @LitChat Genres change depending on what’s wildly popular with publishers at any given moment. #litchat -1:44 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead tweetchat’s being naughty. Won’t let me reply to someone 😦 #litchat -1:44 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie @LitChat I think we should distinguish between physical age and mental age in a protagonist. Some YA has very mature protags. #litchat -1:44 PM Jul 20th, 2009
zumayabooks @maggiedana Allegedly, they did–marketing “experts” say 18-34 males are biggest spenders. #litchat -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
hermitpaul #litchat There isn’t a perfect protagonist. Readers change with age. Writers grow wiser or worse. Genres change with time, I’d say. -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @pussreboots @scqreen Genres change with generations. Fantasy is mostly new. Romances have aged. Graphic novels revolutionary. #litchat -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf Loving this conversation. My WIP has 2 primary protags, 1 is 17, the other is 65. Very difficult to demonstrate deep POV for both. #litchat -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
househomeauthor @linc0lnpark Well put. #litchat -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @LitChat didn’t remember it was #litchat today! hope I still have some time 🙂 -1:45 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana I admire young authors who can write from POV of much older protag. #litchat -1:46 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead Tweetchat won’t let me ‘reply’ but I agree that writer’s can switch genres at will, like actors. I write in several. #litchat -1:46 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @rebeccawoodhead True. But then there is the question of the author’s authentic voice. #litchat -1:47 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @krisriggle ‘s REAL LIFE & LIARS has 4 POVs from different ages, including 60 yr old. Kris is in her 30s. Excellent novel. #litchat -1:48 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @thewaryeye The author is as multifaceted as his mind allows… no? #litchat -1:48 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @rebeccawoodhead Can you give me examples of authors who have done this… successfully. #litchat -1:48 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @jbaddorf Not easy to write from 2 protags’ POV, esp. such different age groups. #litchat -1:48 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass Me too. @maggiedana I admire young authors who can write from POV of much older protag. #litchat -1:48 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I think we might overplay the importance of age. I’m currently winning Ms Twitter UK – & I’m way older than the other finalists #litchat -1:49 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @maggiedana How about older authors who can write from POV of younger protag? #litchat -1:49 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @rebeccawoodhead YEA!!!! Rebecca. You rock. #litchat -1:49 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @cookiebiscuit Older authors can write about younger protags from personal experience, provided they can still remember. #litchat -1:50 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @llunalila Hi! Here we are again! I need to limit myself tonight after 3 hours on #writechat #litchat -1:50 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @linc0lnpark In interest, I would certainly agree. In voice, in language use, I think one would be artificial, the other authentic. #litchat -1:50 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @scgreen aside from Shakespeare you mean? #litchat -1:50 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @rebeccawoodhead I have no idea what Ms Twitter UK is or is about, but I voted for you anyway. #litchat -1:50 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit Ahh, the sweet remembrance of youthful days. #litchat -1:51 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass Sara Gruen did a very good job of writing her protag as old and young man in WATER FOR ELEPHANTS. #litchat -1:51 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @deberryandgrant Trouble is, I’ve forgotten so much of what I’ve been through. #litchat -1:52 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @maggiedana That’s not quite the same. From POV of someone younger but totally different from ourselves. #litchat -1:52 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @rebeccawoodhead Identifying voice was the primary method for attempts to determine who really wrote Shakespeare. #litchat -1:52 PM Jul 20th, 2009
househomeauthor @scgreen In OUT STEALING HORSES, Per Petterson writes beautifully from POV of old man and 15-year-old boy. Brilliant book. #litchat -1:52 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LitChat RT @pussreboots: RT @maggiedana: @LitChat Q3 Ageless? #litchat That would be “vampire” ? (just kidding) -1:53 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @maggiedana I tend to only forget the bad stuff. The good, I remember very well! LOL #litchat -1:53 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @scgreen Personal mission to prove the pen is mightier than the pin-up but now I have a supermodel following me I’m conflicted 🙂 #litchat -1:53 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @cookiebiscuit yeah! Same here, and I need to start working on new single project as well as the series I’m working on #writechat #litchat -1:53 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @rebeccawoodhead Stalked by a supermodel sounds fine to me. #litchat -1:54 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye So do you think he could fool the reader with his voice? I would like to think I could. #litchat -1:54 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark I think writers should embrace their ability 2 B complex — and allow themselves more freedom to think in broad perspectives #litchat -1:54 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @linc0lnpark Absolutely. #litchat -1:54 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @thewaryeye I don’t think Graphic Novels are revolutionary any longer. Once upon a time. Now they’re almost common place. #litchat -1:55 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @linc0lnpark agree! #litchat -1:56 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf @carleenbrice RT Why I enjoy Entourage. #litchat << Heard that from several people. I really should check it out. -1:56 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana As a reader, what do you look for when reading novel with a protag who’s older than you? #litchat -1:57 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @pussreboots Agree, the comic book model. But the concept could be brilliantly expanded. Finding an artist is the obstacle. #litchat -1:57 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead jbaddorf @carleenbrice I was thinking that too 🙂 #litchat -1:57 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel #litchat In highschool my lit teacher was disappointed when I wrote about an 18th C boy. “Write what you know!” He insisted. -1:57 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @pussreboots So many images in my head and no talent for drawing, none once so ever. #litchat -1:58 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana flexibility and a great sex life. Keeps me optimistic for my older years 😉 #litchat -1:58 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf RT @maggiedana: What do you look for…with a protag who’s older than you? #litchat < Someone with a unique experience and an open mind. -1:59 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @maggiedana I look for a char’s position in relationship 2 the story — regardless of age. I follow the story. #litchat -1:59 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @kimchatel Writing what you know is only one method. You can write straight from imagination if you prefer though it’s harder. #litchat -1:59 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LaurenBaratzL @maggiedana Same as with any other book: a well-written story, interesting characters. #litchat -2:00 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @rebeccawoodhead Supermodels, flexibility, and great sex life. What kind of #litchat is this coming to? #litchat -2:00 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @kimchatel One of the biggest writing abuses is “write what you know.” Bad advice from your teacher. #litchat -2:00 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit Gets back to the earlier question of whether fiction derives from the real. #litchat -2:00 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @CarolyBurnsBass Please expand. #litchat -2:01 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead no taboos – this is ‘extreme #litchat ‘ for the fearless #litchat -2:01 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @cookiebiscuit and even “what you know” and “imagination” require good research… #litchat -2:01 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @scgreen Sounds like the plot of a great novel LOL! #litchat -2:02 PM Jul 20th, 2009
househomeauthor You can write what you know emotionally, even if it has nothing to do with your physical time, place, or person. #litchat -2:02 PM Jul 20th, 2009
Viapersona @CarolyBurnsBass @kimchatel Outward appearances may change but human nature remains fairly constant! So the advice is misleading. #litchat -2:02 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark I write what I imagine, whether I have former knowledge of the subject, or not. I thought that was the whole reason 4 writing. #litchat -2:02 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @scgreen If we only wrote what we “knew” fiction would be predictable and boring. -more- #litchat -2:03 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @deberryandgrant …and research – I agree but I ran out of word count! #litchat -2:03 PM Jul 20th, 2009
househomeauthor Fiction derives from real feeling. Fave quote about writing: “All the feelings are facts, it’s just the facts that are fiction.” #litchat -2:03 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead If we only wrote what we knew, we’d get sued a lot #litchat -2:03 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @deberryandgrant Right on! Besides physical research, I often write with Google open in another window LOL #litchat -2:03 PM Jul 20th, 2009
murzee Quirkiness, attitude RT @maggiedana As a reader, what do you look for when reading novel with a protag who’s older than you? #litchat -2:04 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye Gosh. If I answer that I expect I’ll repeat what was said before I joined. #litchat -2:04 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant RT @househomeauthor:Fiction derives from real feeling.RE: writing: “All the feelings r facts, its just the facts that are fiction.” #litchat -2:04 PM Jul 20th, 2009
LMAObot (@cookiebiscuit) @scgreen Sounds like the plot of a great novel LOL! #litchat -2:05 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @scgreen Historical writers research heavily into period, popculture writers don’t have to be a heroin addict to write about drugs. #litchat -2:05 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel @CarolyBurnsBass You’re right. I didn’t take his advice. I was more disappointed in him. I now write fantasy fiction. #litchat -2:05 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie @CarolyBurnsBass I think Americans should read more fiction in translation. Authors writing about things outside US experience. #litchat -2:05 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @linc0lnpark And imagine when we started writing–we actually had ONLY the library! No Google! It’s an easier research world LOL #litchat -2:06 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @CarolyBurnsBass But I think it helps if you have some experience of pop culture. #litchat -2:06 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel @rebeccawoodhead LOL! I have a few stories I’m holding onto until certain people are dead. #litchat -2:06 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit Question is too universal to risk that. I enjoy fiction that reflects reality, posits real people and places. #litchat -2:06 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @scgreen It’s the ability of the writer to research, then employ learning to art–must connect with empathy to character. #litchat -2:06 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @deberryandgrant oh Yes! That’s what I keep telling my daughter when she protests my research. Be4 it was harder #litchat -2:07 PM Jul 20th, 2009
kimchatel @CarolyBurnsBass I agree. I now write about vampires and other fantasy creatures. If I took his advice I’d be in trouble. #litchat -2:07 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @dosankodebbie Agree. My passion is Spanish and South American writers with such creative imaginations. #litchat -2:07 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye Me too. That’s why I am not a great fan of fantasy. I like what I read to relate to me somehow, even if only a little. #litchat -2:07 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @cookiebiscuit. Very true. Yet an author doesn’t have to become an addict. Exposure isn’t necessarily experience. #litchat -2:08 PM Jul 20th, 2009
BenRubinstein @thewaryeye What would fiction be that doesn’t reflect reality? #litchat -2:08 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen I think it’s moving from #litchat to #writechat… not that I mind. #litchat -2:08 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @llunalila histories, guidebooks, maps, encyclopedia, almanacs YIKES! Seems like the dark ages. #litchat -2:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @dosankodebbie I think everyone (not just Americans) should read globally. But that’s not always easy. Not all books available. #litchat -2:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark Q: How do you guys consider the deployment of your text-based stories into this increasingly VISUAL world? #litchat -2:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit As a kid I loved Agatha Christie and Masterpiece Theater for capturing English characters and countryside. #litchat -2:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @CarolyBurnsBass Actually I probably take back what I said! You don’t have be a murderer to write a good murder mystery. #litchat -2:09 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @linc0lnpark As writers we need to paint big pictures with our words. As few words as possible is always better, IMHO. #litchat -2:10 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie @thewaryeye And the youth/age experience can be so different depending on the culture. I find US movies/books to be stuck in a rut #litchat -2:10 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @linc0lnpark Moving pictures will never replace the smell of a paper back. It’s the magic aroma that helps transports the reader. #litchat -2:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @linc0lnpark I don’t think the words are going away. And good words in a good story become visual. #litchat -2:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye As a kid I loved fantasy, Bram Stoker et al. Now I prefer something grittier, usually with a religious based theme. #litchat -2:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @dosankodebbie Which rut? What should be done differently? #litchat -2:11 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead what about the heimlich/unheimlich idea? For something to be really scary it has to be a bit familiar. #litchat -2:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @dosankodebbie Other cultures value age far more than US culture does. #litchat -2:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye What’s Masterpiece Theater? #litchat -2:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @scgreen celluloid has a distinct smell too. #litchat -2:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @deberryandgrant I still remember visiting the Barcelona Ritz when I was 14 & writing a thriller! That was my first research LOL #litchat -2:12 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @stephenfry – I’m sure everyone would be chuffed if you’d join in with litchat some time 🙂 #litchat -2:13 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @BenRubinstein but who is the most realistically fantasy character in Lord of the Rings? #litchat -2:13 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @thewaryeye “Oh the places you’ll go!” Seuss knew!!! #litchat -2:14 PM Jul 20th, 2009
VictoriaMixon “You have only yourself to mine for character.” http://tinyurl.com/mgd6r5 @househomeauthor Write what you know emotionally. #litchat -2:14 PM Jul 20th, 2009
BenRubinstein @VictoriaMixon but as @househomeauthor said “feelings=facts, facts=fiction.” Fantasy has as many feelings as “reality” no? #litchat -2:14 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana Seuss = my favorite poet. RT @deberryandgrant: @thewaryeye “Oh the places youll go!” Seuss knew!!! #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit Yes, and what about the vampire most intrigued you, the bite? #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead what question are we on now? #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
pussreboots @thewaryeye Frodo. #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @deberryandgrant Seuss wrote the ultimate graphic novel, yes? #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @cookiebiscuit Masterpiece has been turning great lit into PBS film for more than 30 years. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/. #litchat -2:15 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen I must say Good bye. “Good bye.” Till next #litchat -2:16 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @pussreboots Probably tell too much about myself, but I’d say Golum. #litchat -2:16 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye The realism and identifying with the characters. My mother came from Romania LOL. #litchat -2:16 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana All Masterpiece Theater productions come from UK. ’nuff said. #litchat -2:17 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @CarolyBurnsBass I SO loved the MPT version of “Moll Flanders”. #litchat -2:17 PM Jul 20th, 2009
VictoriaMixon Of course. I was being facetious. All fiction is true to human nature. @BenRubinstein Fantasy has as many feelings as “reality” no? #litchat -2:17 PM Jul 20th, 2009
dosankodebbie @maggiedana Japan is thought to value age, but that isn’t necessarily so. Once a man retires from his job, he has no social role. #litchat -2:17 PM Jul 20th, 2009
jbaddorf #litchat Grrr.. dang phone. Now have to run to a meeting. Thanks all! -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana oy! I don’t even know what Masterpiece theatre is #litchat -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @CarolyBurnsBass I guess you are in US? I’m in UK. #litchat -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit Oh my, and did she bring any favorite fairy tales with her? Friend of mine from Hungary collected the old tales. #litchat -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @dosankodebbie So in Japan it’s a career that defines a man. A woman, too? #litchat -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
BenRubinstein @thewaryeye Haven’t actually read Tolkien, but I’d say Jessica from Dune was sublimely realistic in a SciFi book. #litchat -2:18 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana @cookiebiscuit I’m a Brit, but have lived in US for many years. #litchat -2:19 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @CarolyBurnsBass PBS was doing it long before Merchant- Ivory did the same for the big screen- #litchat -2:19 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @cookiebiscuit I’m in UK #litchat -2:19 PM Jul 20th, 2009
deberryandgrant @thewaryeye many of them… #litchat -2:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
scgreen @maggiedana Yes, but the US has Ripley’s Believe It Or Not… Oh wait, that’s not helping. #litchat -2:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
VictoriaMixon Hair-on-fire moment. How can we be that old? @CarolyBurnsBass Are you serious? Now this is generation gap. re: Masterpiece Theater #litchat -2:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @BenRubinstein Dune is wonderful, the version with Sting and all the Jules Verne machinery. #litchat -2:20 PM Jul 20th, 2009
maggiedana Sad, but true. RT @scgreen: @maggiedana Yes, but the US has Ripleys Believe It Or Not… Oh wait, thats not helping. #litchat -2:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @thewaryeye No fairy tales but her mother was very superstitious. My mother was afraid of wolves. As a child she could hear them #litchat -2:21 PM Jul 20th, 2009
cookiebiscuit @maggiedana Where did u live in UK? #litchat -2:22 PM Jul 20th, 2009
linc0lnpark @BenRubinstein I liked t.f. that Baron Harkkonen had skin problems. Char’s never seem 2 have acne or chin-hairs 2 pluck, anymore. #litchat -2:22 PM Jul 20th, 2009
thewaryeye @cookiebiscuit My Irish grandmother believed in mediums and ghosts, but then she grew up in a Colorado mountain mining town. #litchat -2:22 PM Jul 20th, 2009
llunalila @cookiebiscuit all this background should make a great story 🙂 #litchat -2:22 PM Jul 20th, 2009
VictoriaMixon Hungarian? Wow! That’s a treasure chest! @thewaryeye Friend of mine from Hungary collected the old tales. #litchat -2:23 PM Jul 20th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead thanks for an interesting litchat – must drink tea – English blood is 80% tea. If it drops lower than that, we lose our irony. Bye #litchat -2:23 PM Jul 20th, 2009
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