August 24, 2009: Sci-Fi, Fantasy & A Child’s Imagination, open chat 1
The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on August 24, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was open discussion Sci-Fi, Fantasy and a Child’s Imagination. Moderated by J.T. Oldfield (@bibliofreakblog).
| bibliofreakblog just logged in to tweetchat for #litchat! Let’s hope it behaves today! #litchat -1:02 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog it might but we won’t 😛 #litchat -1:02 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @bibliofreakblog Hi. I’m a science fiction writer, so this should be an interesting convo for me. #litchat -1:03 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mdbenoit2 glad to have you! #litchat -1:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead while the cat’s away…no, I’m going to try my best to be good. #litchat -1:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 Mhmm, and I’m just starting on my fantasy YA novel! #litchat -1:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog If you are here, go ahead and give a wave or introduce yourself! #litchat -1:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Am here, which means TweetChat will start misbehaving, right now. #litchat -1:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @maggiedana do you think that talking about it will mislead it into behaving? like saying “break a leg”? #litchat -1:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| VanessaDobbs Hello everybody hope tweetchat behaves #litchat -1:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana So, you’re the jinx. #litchat -1:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana *waves and raises cup of tea* #litchat -1:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana <— waving at Rebecca and MDBenoit2 … and biblio and Ben. Anyone else here yet? Rebecca, where are the lunatics you promised? #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell Hello! Writer, but of historical mysteries, not sci-fi. Quite a bit of world building, but at least the planet’s basically the same #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @BenRubinstein *waves and raises Word Nerd flag* #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan Isn’t the correct term SF – Sci-Fi is used by the ignorati? #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @maggiedana I’m here. #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @maggiedana we ARE the lunatics. #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @thejohnkeenan Quite. #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat Hallo hallo hallo! #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @thejohnkeenan lol, that is how @litchat wrote it when she gave me the topic, but SF is more twitter-friendly. #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell So early and already picking a fight? :)RT @thejohnkeenan: Isn’t the correct term SF – Sci-Fi is used by the ignorati? #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @thejohnkeenan Yes, SF is correct, meaning Speculative Fiction, which is science fiction and fantasy #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson Reader, not writer of SF–here to lurk today. 🙂 #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog big shout out to @thejohnkeenan who’s been v supportive of Word Nerd Army & is a clever writer chap 🙂 #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog In case you don’t know, the topic today is Sci-Fi (or SF)/fantasy and the child’s imagination. #litchat -1:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @BenRubinstein That t-shirt’s just hilarious! Most of my friends would agree with it. 🙂 #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @thejohnkeenan Why would you say that? “SF” just stands for “science fiction.” They’re both abbreviations of the same phrase. #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead Is @thejohnkeenan here? If so, welcome, if not, come on over! #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @bibliofreakblog why the two together? #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana I don’t write or read SF …. but have no intention of merely lurking. Am up for fun and mischief. You? @bonnieadamson #litchat -1:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @maggiedana echo moderator re: lunatics – but didn’t want to say it first #litchat -1:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @bibliofreakblog So. How ’bout those kids, eh? #litchat (doesn’t have kids, heh) -1:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein No, they’re not. SF is Speculative Fiction #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| VanessaDobbs @mdbenoit2 I always wonder why they are grouped together #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 Ahh, speculative vs science. Interesting distinction. Seems a bit esoteric though. #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog O.K., Q1: what is it about SF/Fantasy that appeals to children? #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @maggiedana Oh, don’t tempt me! LOL #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana You’re missing some good stories. Some are awesome. #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan Will Self: all purists call science fiction SF, and have nothing but contempt for “sci fi” #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog yep, he’s here. First time though so be kind. BTW I’ll be worse than bad tonight – am non-expert in realm of SF #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana My kid tell me this. Will try reading … again. RT @mdbenoit2: @maggiedana Youre missing some good stories. Some are awesome. #litchat -1:12 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead me neither, but I *have* been a child. #litchat -1:12 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @rebeccacantrell he’s new. Be kind 🙂 *waves* #litchat -1:12 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 Q1: Children are more attracted to Fantasy than science fic. There’s very little science fic. written for kids. #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @thejohnkeenan every day’s a school day 🙂 #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @VanessaDobbs I was studying the two for a while (was going to be PhD topic), & concluded they’re 2 sides of same coin. (SF&F) #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana Let me know if you want recommendations. #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots I think the scifi / sf debate is stupid. What matters are the stories. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog SF/F appeals to kids b/c is an extension of fairy tales, the imaginary, that they were raised on? Is easy for 1/2 #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Will do, and thanks. My son has a library full of ’em. RT @mdbenoit2: @maggiedana Let me know if you want recommendations. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| VanessaDobbs @kashicat Iasked cos Idon’tread much of either to know #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PattyJMurphy Stupid question #1: What would you say are the key elements of SF–that make it stand out from any other kinds of fantasy? #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog easy for young with developing understanding of world to suspend disbelief 2/2 #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| JDeurbrouck Q1: I know what appealed to me: the possibility of the improbable. i thot the real world boring as a kid. hoped for more. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat Earlier SF appealed to more kids, I think, because it really was about whole worlds no one had imagined before #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @mdbenoit2 Even as a child I was more attracted to sf over fantasy. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Fantasy author and publisher of terrific SF, including that of M.D. Benoit. And yes, “sci-fi” marks speaker as amateur in fendom. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog y do u think that is? RT @mdbenoit2 kids r more attracted 2 Fantasy than sci-fi. There’s very little science fic. written 4 kids. #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell I think kids are also building their own sense of reality, so even the “regular” world seems more fantastical. #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan Self was talking about Ballard – a great writer not matter what you call the genre #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour Can anyone name pure SF for kids? Phillip Reeve’s Mortal Engines is the only one I can think of offhand. #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @pussreboots Me, too (oops–so much for lurking). #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat I think both SF & F appeal because they stir the imagination. #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell I know lots of kids who like Sci-fi more than fantasy. They revel in all the gadget and science explanations. I liked both as a kid #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| wendykwebb Wrinkle in Time, SF for kids? #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @pitchparlour Isaac Asimov and Harry Harrison both wrote some ages ago. #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| JDeurbrouck @rebeccacantrell opposite for me as a kid: real world as presented seemed too UNfantastical but my instincts said that was wrong. #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @pitchparlour Jules Verne? #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead Childhood is about being told you’re wrong by adults. Fantasy worlds make you feel like an expert. #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @pitchparlour How about Phillip Pullman? That’s SF for kids #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @bibliofreakblog Fantasy is more of a trend now, with magic and dragons and monsters. #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @bibliofreakblog At the time, it was for adults, or YA at the very least. #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @BenRubinstein How is Phillip Pullman SF? #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| littlefluffycat Fantasy and mainstream, with toes into this and that, checking in. . . #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell Agree. RT @rebeccawoodhead: Childhood is about being told youre wrong by adults. Fantasy worlds make you feel like an expert. #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein Pullman does not write science fiction. It’s fantasy. There’s not much science in his fiction #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mdbenoit2 as opposed, perhaps, to the detective novels of old (Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys, etc) #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| amyknichols Testing to see if my post shows up. So far, nada. #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead If I were still a kid, I’d feel short-changed by the extent that adults buy into Harry Potter. Kids need their own worlds. #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @amyknichols no, we got, see? RT @amyknichols Testing to see if my post shows up. So far, nada. #litchat #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell @amyknichols I saw that one! #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @amyknichols I can see you. 🙂 #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @pitchparlour Orson Scott Card’s ENDER’S GAME, w/young protag, can be a good read for older kids. #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| littlefluffycat @rebeccawoodhead I have one serious Potterhead in my house, besides me, & he likes it because it’s a place we’re on the same level. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead isn’t that the debate over labeling things as YA or Teen Fic? Teen Fic sounds like it’s theirs. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccacantrell @rebeccawoodhead The Edge Chronicles is big with kids, not adults. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @amyknichols I see you on TweetChat #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead Children need their own words too – things that other generations don’t ‘get’ and both sf/f give them that. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @amyknichols I see you, Amy. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| wendykwebb The Giver, great SF for kids. Or is it F? #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @zumayabooks There has to be someone better than Card. UGH. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @rebeccawoodhead Oh, but, there’s always been a mix between adults and kids reading both SF&F. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| sam_elliott IMO sf/fant don’t appeal more to kids than other genres do; they appeal more broadly across that age group than across others. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| TheNewAuthor Fantasy has a rather clear line between what is right and wrong, good and bad. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| JDeurbrouck @rebeccawoodhead really? i’dve thought kids would feel validated by adult interest in books they also like. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour SF tackles the concept of ‘other’, or ‘alien’. Kids aren’t good at that, as they haven’t yet worked out ‘self’. #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @wendykwebb I’d call the Giver science fiction. #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @rebeccawoodhead It was my adult aunt who got me reading Lord of the Rings, & it made me feel grownup, that I shared world w/her #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour John Wyndham’s Day of the Triffids maybe? #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @pitchparlour Hmmm. My 3 and 7 year olds both love science fiction. #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog Q2: Do you think that the association of sci-fi/fant with childhood is what makes some ppl disregard the genre? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @JDeurbrouck I don’t think they care. Would you have cared? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| TheNewAuthor Kids look at that so they can cheer the good guy completely without question. #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @pussreboots Seriously? Where’s the science? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana SF/fantasy often lumped together. How do you differentiate? Dragons in one … crazed scientists in the other? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PattyJMurphy That was what my ? posed. But, NO answer yet! RT: wendykwebb: The Giver, great SF for kids. Or is it F? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan Angela Carter – another genre-defying writer? #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @kashicat For me it was my Mom who got me into Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| amyknichols @bibliofreakblog Q2: I think that’s part of it. Some see SF/Fant readers as lacking sophistication or RenFest/D&D types. #litchat -1:25 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Q1 The very nature of the stories, the what if factor #litchat -1:26 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @thejohnkeenan Fantastic, and accessible. #litchat -1:27 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog I don’t agree. Most good SF can be read by any age therefore there is no need for a separate YA SF genre #litchat -1:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Q2 I think people disregard SF because they associate it with stuff like Star Wars which is not SF but space opera #litchat -1:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @mdbenoit2 Sometimes the two blend together… magic in a world of spaceships and robots. #litchat -1:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @pussreboots Only mentioning, and I agree. LOL Doing space opera trilogy by Bob Vardeman that has kid appeal, I think. #litchat -1:32 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| readroy @mdbenoit2 I started with Fantasy (Anthony, Asprin, Eddings) then moved to SF re: Q1 Children are more attracted to Fantasy than SF #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| VanessaDobbs @PennyAsh I used to read SF as a YA Asimov, Heinlein so agree with you.Don’t tend to read it much now though #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| amyknichols FTR: I like RenFest/D&D types. 🙂 #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 Yes! RT @PennyAsh: I think people disregard SF because they associate it with stuff like Star Wars which is not SF but space opera #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan @pussreboots @mdbenoit2 see@blakesnyder re ‘double mumbo jumbo’: more than one type of magic makes novel/film/story unbelievable #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @readroy I started with science fiction movies and worked my way back to books. #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @pussreboots Examples? Titles? #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| amyknichols Ugh. Too annoyed with Twitter. Off to write. Will try #litchat again on Wed. #litchat -1:38 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @VanessaDobbs I stopped reading it for about ten years but started up again 3 years ago. #litchat -1:39 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @VanessaDobbs I started with Herbert and Heinlein. I still read some but I’m not impressed with the newer writers #litchat -1:40 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| ddtannenbaum @maggiedana Nope. Look at the Dragonrider’s of Pern. Solid hard SF, but with Dragons! #litchat -1:40 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots RT @amyknichols: FTR: I like RenFest/D&D types. 🙂 (many of my friends fit this category) #litchat -1:41 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @thejohnkeenan How the different elements are used is what makes or breaks the story, not the combination. #litchat #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @PennyAsh Have you tried Robert Charles Wilson? One of my faves #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @ddtannenbaum Loved the Pern series as a kid. #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @mdbenoit2 Thanks 🙂 Usually people get mad when I say that lol #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @ddtannenbaum Exactly 😀 #litchat -1:44 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Twitter seems to be having technical difficulties…again. #litchat -1:44 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @mdbenoit2 No I haven’t, I’ll check him out. Always looking for new authors to read #litchat -1:44 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @TheNewAuthor See, that’s actually what I DISLIKE in much of Fantasy. There shouldn’t be “monolithic evil” that’s easy to kill #litchat -1:44 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| wendykwebb Tweetchat keeps going down. A subtle message to get back to writing? Sorry all. Join you next time. #litchat -1:45 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| JenniferWeltz My son loved it. RT @wendykwebb: The Giver, great SF for kids. Or is it F? #litchat -1:45 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @PennyAsh Try “Spin”. It’s awesome. #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 Back to earlier point, why isn’t Pullman SF? Heavy on gadgets: the Compass, and machine to sever soul/body! #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @pussreboots But what do they read? #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein I’m also against monolithic evil. Children can understand subtlety. #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog I’ve been kicked off of twitter for the last 15 minutes, but looks like you have been fine w/out me #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @BenRubinstein I agree w/ you re the monolithic evil in fantasy. #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @PennyAsh Oh man, Herbert’s dune series (all 6) are some of my all time faves! Got me into SF! #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @pitchparlour My son is just starting to read. His tastes are leaning towards science fiction. Although he has a thing for monsters #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead sorry I was away – twitter fell over here. Went looking for you all on Facebook 😀 What did I miss? Where are we now? #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein Because it’s fake science. Made up. Held up by magic. I’d call it alternate reality, not SF. #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @BenRubinstein Pullman is steampunk fantasy because of the spiritual elements I think #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Did anyone else just get punted off Twitter? Figured I broke it, for sure. #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @BenRubinstein U answered own question. In SF, issue of “soul” wouldn’t be considered. #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @pitchparlour My youngest likes the Wall-E books from the movie. Anything w/ a robot. #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @pussreboots But what titles? #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| corb21 I’m late, as usual…what are we talking about? #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| thejohnkeenan Sorry folks – Twitter keeps collapsing on me. Have enjoyed my first time though. Will be back next time #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana I tried to ask you what you did to it, but Twitter was totally frozen. #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @BenRubinstein Also, actual animals as psychological symbionts is fantasy, not science. #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @BenRubinstein In the fantasy I write evil is a nebulous thing that shows up in many forms, like real life 🙂 #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @pussreboots Actually, seems like dichotomous good/evil is borderline socially irresponsible. Shouldn’t teach kids to hate easily #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @littlefluffycat I fail to see that completely, but I’d be happy to listen to you explain it. #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @zumayabooks Not true. See “Ghost in the Shell” anime. See “Immortality Inc” See “Simulacron-3” (aka Thirteenth Floor) #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana <—-‘s fault it broke. Sorry. RT @mdbenoit2: @maggiedana I tried to ask you what you did to it, but Twitter was totally frozen. #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @mdbenoit2 I’ll see if I can find Spin 🙂 #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @zumayabooks Wait, I thought SF was “speculative,” not “science,” therefore talk of “souls” is completely fair-game. #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog Q3: How do sci-fi & fantasy stimulate creativity? #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 Agreed. RT @zumayabooks: @BenRubinstein Also, actual animals as psychological symbionts is fantasy, not science. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog Hmmm…looks like we’re missing a few tweeps. I guess I’m not the only one who couldn’t access Twitter. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| VanessaDobbs @mdbenoit2 thought it was just mine #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @thejohnkeenan don’t go! It’s back up again now. Stick with it 🙂 #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @maggiedana Twitter was down for me, too. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana I read and loved STARGIRL two years ago. Is it considered fantasy? Magical realism? Neither? #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @BenRubinstein I still remember the way Dune made me feel when I read it for the first time 🙂 I was hooked #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @corb21 twitter’s having problems so it’s a bit tricky to follow but it’s about sf/ fantasy and childhood. #litchat -1:51 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana Who is Stargirl by? Don’t know it. #litchat -1:51 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @thejohnkeenan hope that you enjoyed what you could. Stay if you can! #litchat -1:51 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @thejohnkeenan any thoughts on how sf / fantasy stimulate creativity? #litchat -1:52 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Wracking brain. Can’t remember. Will look it up. RT @mdbenoit2: @maggiedana Who is Stargirl by? Dont know it. #litchat -1:52 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @mdbenoit2 Jerry Spinelli. It’s YA … fabulous story. Couldn’t put it down. #litchat -1:52 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 Q3: Don’t think it does, any more than other lit. Fires imagination, maybe, but not creativity. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @PennyAsh Me too. It was on a hike through the Grand Canyon! Dune and GC forever linked for me. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Q3: The ability to assess cultural issues through analogy & metaphor make SF/F a powerful moral tool #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @BenRubinstein At certain age, kids see good/evil in black/white, so fiction that reflects that appeals to them more. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| herstorian @PennyAsh: Pullman is steampunk because of the technology and atmosphere of his worlds. #litchat (Hi! I’m late but thought I’d pop in.) -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog RE Q3, I think that sci-fi & fantasy allow both the reader and author to completely go outside the box. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana I think I’d enjoy SF/fan more if not for the oddball names and words I can’t begin to pronounce. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| littlefluffycat @pitchparlour I’d never thought of it, but look at the type of science & how it’s portrayed, versus how people actually live. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @zumayabooks What is that “certain age”? My son is certainly beyond seeing things and b & w. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein yes! Sometimes it’s just easier to use a metaphor than tell something straight out. #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 Still confused, thought it was said only “amateurs” & “idiocracy” thought SF was science instead of speculative. #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Q3 Again the “what if” factor, kids learn to think “what if this was true” and “How can I make it true” #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @maggiedana Try Roger Zelazny… nice simple words. No unusual names. Great story telling. #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi Hi all! I keep seeing people saying they’re late. Isn’t the official time for #litchat 5-6p EST? #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| corb21 everyone’s having problems, I don’t know what we’re talking about…I have work to do. See you next time. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @PennyAsh how about adults? What does it do for writers or adult readers? #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @BenRubinstein “Speculative” refers to entire genre. Clear line between science fiction/fantasy within the genre, however. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @pussreboots Thanks. I’ll check him out. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @debbieohi no, it’s 4-5 EST. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi If I’m wrong about the time, I need to edit my chat list at http://bit.ly/writerchats . Any info appreciated! #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein SF is speculative fiction, encompassing BOTH sci-fi and fan. However, they’re not the same genre. #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @littlefluffycat It’s not steampunk. There are steampunk elements. #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @pussreboots Not sure what you’re responding to, thanks to Twitter #fail. #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @bibliofreakblog Ah, thanks. Same time on Mon, Wed and Fri? #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Well, for me it usually makes me want to create artwork or y own stories set in other worlds #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| herstorian RT @rebeccawoodhead: Childhood is about being told you’re wrong by adults. Fantasy worlds make you feel like an expert. #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @mdbenoit2 So it’s not correct, then, to call science fiction SF? #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana For something a little deeper, try The Sparrow by Mary Doria Russell. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @zumayabooks re? #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bonnieadamson @maggiedana Or “sy-fy”–ick. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @mdbenoit2 Thanks … I’ll check her out, too. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @zumayabooks science fiction and fantasy for kids #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @mdbenoit2 Hate hate hate it. Poor mockery of Childhood’s End. #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| susanmpls #litchat, save me! I’m swimming in the watery muck of ebook contracts and can’t . . . *gasp* . . . come up for . . .*gasp* . . . air . . . -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @pussreboots Neat 🙂 I read it because it was the favorite book of a boy I liked. Tossed the boy, kept the book lol #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| littlefluffycat @pitchparlour But wouldn’t even use of the elements qualify it as some level of science fiction? #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 Interesting, so “sci-fi” allows for “speculation” only insofar as OUR world’s scientific laws? Other world’s laws are F? #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @maggiedana Many people use SF for science fiction. I like that better than sci-fi. That term makes me think of movies. #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @pitchparlour Not sure what you’re hating. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| herstorian RT @zumayabooks: @BenRubinstein “Speculative” refers to entire genre. Clear line btw scifi/fantasy within the genre, however. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @maggiedana Try Heinlein, he has very little of that. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @BenRubinstein Now you’re getting into the realm of Hal Clement. 😀 #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Tossing @susanmpls literary life vest, filled with chocolate and wine. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @mdbenoit2 SF makes me think of the “The City” across the bay from me. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pitchparlour @mdbenoit2 Sorry – The Sparrow. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @PennyAsh Another name. Thanks. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Science fiction has unquestionably stimulated creativity in the past–Verne, in particular, I think. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @debbieohi yup. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @maggiedana @susanmpls A literary life vest w/chocolate & wine? Great idea! 😀 #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @pussreboots Not familiar with that name! Will have to research. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @BenRubinstein The science laws as we know them. There can be some derivation but the basics have to be solid. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @BenRubinstein Good SF is speculation based on real science, extrapolated into what if again #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Still posits new ideas, but now more often looks at impact of technology/science on the human condition. #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @debbieohi Start drowning, and I’ll toss one your way, too!!! #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein @mdbenoit2 what about the made up rules of other planets or dimensions? #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @bibliofreakblog Thank you! I’ve fixed the listing. #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @pussreboots Better than SyFy 🙂 #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @susanmpls here’s an inflatable duck – it’s all I have to hand but it might work as a floatation device *throws duck* #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @pussreboots I didn’t make it up. It’s established that kids around 10 are very “fairness/justice” obsessed. #litchat -2:02 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @bibliofreakblog The rules still have to make sense. If a planet with red sun, must follow laws of physics. #litchat -2:02 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog Well, guys, we have reached that time…Hopefully you all got your #litchat fix until Wednesday 4-5 EST, guest moderator is @latte #litchat -2:02 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @mdbenoit2 SyFy is just stupid marketing. #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead will reflect on that shocking news when I leave #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Yep! Science is “body of facts, systematically arranged, showing operation of laws” Based on that, many (1/2) #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @pussreboots Which will fail, I fervently hope. #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mdbenoit2 sure, but superman has supers strength because of our sun, and that doesn’t follow physics. #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @bibliofreakblog Instead of “made up” rules, they can be described different based on the lifeforms’ own perceptions. #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog But remember, carrying on the #litchat convo is encouraged! #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog well done! A tough gig with twitter going down the way it did so *applause* 🙂 #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Many fantasy wtrs are really writing sci-fi, not fntasy, because they take pains to make laws out of the magic 2/2 #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @pussreboots what about some things that are totally made up? Warp coils, etc? #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mdbenoit2 @bibliofreakblog Thanks from hosting. Have to go myself. Bye, all. #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein making magic into a science? #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mdbenoit2 bye! #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead ::curtsies:: #litchat -2:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bookaliciouspam @bibliofreakblog I need to participate in #litchat sometime, is there a sign up or do you just join in? -2:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @maggiedana Start with Heinlein’s early works 🙂 Absolute classics #litchat -2:06 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Example, Sanderson’s Elantris, magic system is so ordered, consistent, & methodical it almost becomes science #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog have to go but thanks for hosting. Fab chat. #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @bookaliciouspam no, you just join in. It’s MWF 4-5 EST. It’s best if you use tweetchat. #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead welcome, ttyl. #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein i think that some rules help the story arc and character development. wouldn’t be fun if ppl could do anything. #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @bibliofreakblog It’s made up technology. But it’s presented as science. That’s where the speculation comes in. #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @PennyAsh Heinlein … cross between the painter and a beer? #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog But they aren’t totally made up 🙂 Read Michio Kaku’s physics books. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| hprw @maggiedana Couldn’t get onto Twitter, couldn’t get to #litchat… you will have to fill me in on what went on. Hope all is well with you. -2:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @bibliofreakblog Thought I’d add my thanks to the mix before Twitter goes postal again. THANK YOU for moderating today. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @pussreboots I see what you mean. #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo so, I guess me miss ol’ #litchat? -2:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @hprw Twitter was naughty today. It even gave ME trouble. #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @maggiedana lol, I didn’t get to misbehave, because twitter was misbehaving so. Looking forward to NOT moderating on Weds. 😉 #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @maggiedana LOL that would work. #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @PennyAsh yeah…i don’t get physics…never took a class. on purpose. #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bellamcguire Ran errands, forgot about #litchat and such a great topic since I’ve been pondering what sff to start reading to the boys. -2:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @pussreboots you know, more and more I’m finding the term speculative fiction apt. #litchat -2:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo I’ve got something profound and important to add! umm I….there was this…hmmm never mind. #litchat -2:13 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo well said, sir! #litchat -2:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Michio Kaku has a gift for making it understandable even to the math challenged like me 🙂 #litchat -2:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @bibliofreakblog To SF purists, faster-than-light travel & time machines are NOT science fiction. #litchat -2:14 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @zumayabooks are they fantasy, then? #litchat -2:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @zumayabooks SF purists like any other purist are missing out on potentially good stories for silly reasons. #litchat -2:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @PennyAsh i think i’ll get it for my husband and then have him tell me about it. 😉 #litchat -2:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @bibliofreakblog So, STAR TREK/STAR WARS are considered fantasy–or “science fantasy”–in those quarters. #litchat -2:15 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @SteferstheGreat didn’t think it was right to bring it up in #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @zumayabooks Nope they’re all well withing the possible 🙂 If we only had the power sources required… #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Who knew the definition of “science fiction” changed with each new law/theorem/breakthrough? #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| PennyAsh @bibliofreakblog Good idea 🙂 #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Even in fantasy, magic has to have rules, so yes, there is in a sense a “science” to fantasy. #litchat -2:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @zumayabooks humph. ::crossesarms:: #litchat -2:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| TheNewAuthor @BenRubinstein True but children want that clear cut line. The problem with reality is the lack of people to look up to. #litchat -2:17 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein or that writers of sci-fi could be so prescient. #litchat -2:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but William Sleator’s books would be great for a YA or advanced MG re: specfic. #litchat -2:18 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi I came late, so missed the topic, but it sounds as if you’re focusing on specfic for a young male reader? #litchat -2:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog A (probably not) last thought from me: who said that magic is stuff that science hasn’t made boring yet? #litchat -2:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| ThoughtfulPen RT @zumayabooks Even in fantasy, magic has to have rules, so yes, there is in a sense a “science” to fantasy. #litchat ~Well said! -2:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo true; my agent beats me up with “rules” for consistency and references in my urban fantasy series #litchat -2:19 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @debbieohi No! Just SF/F in general. I should hope talking of SF/F doesn’t sound like its for young males! #litchat -2:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog another (probably not) last thought: I can’t talk about fant. w/out Robert Jordan (RIP) & how I wont read series til compled now #litchat -2:20 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @BenRubinstein No, I just saw an earlier comment that someone was looking for sf for boys. 🙂 #litchat -2:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo if your agent doesn’t, your fans will! #litchat -2:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo “Mikey, what’s all this gobble-dee-gook? ” she says. “Stay focused!” #litchat -2:21 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @BenRubinstein Nope. The “maleness” of SF never stopped me or my female friends from reading it. #litchat -2:22 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog I just finished first WoT, not bad. Actually wished magic had more rules. Aes Sedai silly powerful #litchat -2:23 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @bibliofreakblog How true, bib, how true. Even when I cry “It’s my party and I’ll write it like I want to.” #litchat -2:23 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi Ah, just smartened up and checked @litchat’s recent post, saw the topic. #litchat -2:23 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo I heard that they gave Lavar Burton all the explanation lines in TNG because he could make it sound convincing. #litchat -2:23 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein it’s my fav fantasy series. next one comes out this fall. #litchat -2:23 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @BenRubinstein Besides, I never found sf to be particularly male-focused. 🙂 #litchat -2:24 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @bibliofreakblog I think you’re over thinking the genre classification. Just relax and enjoy the story (or not! depending on taste) #litchat -2:24 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @BenRubinstein I use many Rules” pertaining to modern and ancient spiritualism to keep magic “real” #litchat -2:24 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo it’s also the idea that fans can accept the fantastic, but heaven forbid you bend your own rules. #litchat -2:25 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @BenRubinstein Just an opinion, but suggest you stop after first WoT. It just goes downhill from there. 😉 #litchat -2:25 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @pussreboots Me? overthink things? NEVER!!!!! Well, maybe I do. I guess that there was this 1 time when I was saying that.. 😉 #litchat -2:26 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @debbieohi many of my female writer friends focus on YA sci/fi and sci/fi in general #litchat -2:26 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @zumayabooks blastphemy! #litchat -2:26 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog I want to read more to find about about Nnynave (sp), she was fave char by far! #litchat -2:26 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks RT @bibliofreakblog: @mciddangelo it’s also the idea that fans can accept the fantastic, but heaven forbid you bend your own rules. #litchat -2:27 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo do you write YA or adult? #litchat -2:27 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @mciddangelo I’m like your female writer friends. 🙂 My main writing interests are YA and MG sf and/or fantasy. #litchat -2:27 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein I’m a little in love with Rand. Not gonna lie. #litchat -2:27 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @debbieohi Good! Check out http://bit.ly/MHJ4U Best SF/F female protag I’ve read in a while! #litchat -2:28 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @rj_anderson I just arrived myself; seems like they’re still going strong here. #litchat -2:28 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead @TheNewAuthor but you’re real! They can look up to you 🙂 #litchat -2:28 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks @bibliofreakblog Sorry. Consider 700 pg. book where only action happens in last 100 pp. bad writing–or editing. LOL #litchat -2:28 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @zumayabooks @BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog you CANNOT bend your own rules! hear hear! that’s what I get all the time! #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rj_anderson @BenRubinstein Nynaeve? I liked her too. Though if she tugged on her braid one… more… time… #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @BenRubinstein Thanks for the recommendation. Writing that down. Elizabeth Bear’s on Twitter, isn’t she? #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @bibliofreakblog I write adult-oriented works. #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @zumayabooks lol, and lord of chaos, which is basically ALL character development, is my fav of the series. #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Oddly, seemed like Jordan wrote better women than men. His men whined all the time! #litchat -2:29 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rj_anderson @zumayabooks Amen to that. That’s why I enjoy MG/YA SF&F the most these days — the editing’s so tight, there’s hardly any bloat. #litchat -2:30 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @debbieohi Woah, hadn’t heard that!!! If you find her acct let me know pls! #litchat -2:30 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @mciddangelo what’s your series called? It’s not on your profile. #litchat -2:30 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| TheNewAuthor @rebeccawoodhead Stop it…you’re building up my ego. #litchat -2:30 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rj_anderson @BenRubinstein Try http://twitter.com/Matociquala for Elizabeth Bear. #litchat -2:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein yes, lots of strong female characters…i definitely appreciated that. #litchat -2:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi @BenRubinstein You can find Elizabeth Bear at @matociquala #litchat -2:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @bibliofreakblog Ok, off for day, thanks again! #litchat -2:31 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @BenRubinstein ta ta! #litchat -2:32 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog O.K., tweeps, I’m going to sign out of tweetchat, but please continue to discuss! #litchat -2:33 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo @bibliofreakblog called the Artemus Dark series. I was going to call it GhostHunter Mysteries, but that 1 has been dun 2 death #litchat -2:33 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @debbieohi @rj_anderson THANK YOU! So good! Bear’s (@matociquala ) sequel is coming out soon! Best Valkyrie ever! #litchat -2:33 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| debbieohi Ok, must go. ‘Tis my 18th wedding anniversary, so @jridpath and I are heading out now. Nice chatting w/you all! #litchat -2:34 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BenRubinstein @debbieohi LOL, & Bear’s bio is “I tell lies to strangers for money” #litchat -2:34 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @MCidDAngelo I’m going to Google it. #litchat -2:34 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| rj_anderson @debbieohi Happy anniversary! #litchat -2:35 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| bibliofreakblog @MCidDAngelo ah…i see. #litchat. Let us know when you get a placement and when it comes out! -2:35 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo Not sold yet – but interested houses. any day the call will come. #litchat -2:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo … hopefully #litchat -2:36 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo Hmm, when @moniquehigh was representing me, the book could be found on google – but not there any more #litchat -2:38 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| TheNewAuthor I wish I could have been more involved with the chat today but tweetdeck started acting up. #litchat -2:39 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| SigSeattle @TheNewAuthor I use tweetchat for the chats. Tweetdeck too hard LOL #litchat -2:40 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Highly recommend http://www.twitterfall.com for #litchat and other discussions. -2:41 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| mciddangelo *kicks dirt clod* but I do have shorter works sold. *sniff* #litchat -2:41 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| JadoreBrittanie Whats the topic today? #litchat -3:11 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
| BJMuntain RT @zumayabooks Even in fantasy, magic has to have rules, so yes, there is in a sense a “science” to fantasy. #litchat -4:57 PM Aug 24th, 2009 |
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