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August 12, 2009 Wordplay & Creative Literary License, open chat 2

The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on August 12, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was open discussion: Wordplay and Creative Literary License.

LitChat Welcome to LitChat where we’re chatting about WORDPLAY & CREATIVE LITERARY LICENSE for the next hour. Please introduce yourself. #litchat -1:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 My name is Carol and I’m addicted to #litchat. #litchat -1:01 PM Aug 12th, 2009
JennieBentley Hi, Carol! RT @corb21: My name is Carol and I’m addicted to #litchat. #litchat -1:01 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat Putting on my twitterspecs, I see @rebeccawoodhead and @LexxClarke are already in the virtual studio. Oh! @corb21 just popped in. #litchat -1:02 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat @corb21 Do we need to start a recovery group for Litchattics? #litchat -1:02 PM Aug 12th, 2009
JoLynneValerie Jumping into #litchat today. Sure, I’ve got two deadlines looming but I hear this discussion is too lively to miss! -1:03 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Karen_Palmer Hi all. I’m a novelist & freelance editor. #litchat -1:03 PM Aug 12th, 2009
JoLynneValerie @corb21 @rebeccawoodhead @LexxClarke @JennieBentley Greetings, #litchat tweeps. 🙂 -1:04 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @LitChat I’ve been spotted! Guess my ‘write now or join #litchat’ question’s been answered then. 🙂 Will pop in for a while. -1:05 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat @bestofchat Hey, would you kindly hold the RTs for #litchat while the chat is in session? Thanks. #litchat -1:06 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @LitChat I think perhaps…this does interfere with my work day and all… yet, I just can’t help myself! #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @LitChat It’s a bot. Just ban it. #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass Speaking of Litchattics and wordplay, I recently got a travel press release from a golf resort saying “Attention Golf Alcoholics.” #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @JennieBentley your name’s not Carol! hahaha Hi Jennie! #litchat -1:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @CarolyBurnsBass does that make us book-aholics? Sounds chronic. #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead Hi everyone. I’m an author-in-waiting and general word nerd – and Ms Twitter UK. #litchat -1:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat What is your favorite type of wordplay? Metaphors? Analogies? Similies? Allegories? Idioms? #litchat -1:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Karen_Palmer Metaphors, sparingly. Idioms, when true to the character/voice. #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @corb21 The PR release was promoting “unlimited” golf. I wanted to respond whether that included unlimited liquor on the green. #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @LitChat I like puns. #litchat -1:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I’m British so it has to be double entendre. Can’t beat a good ‘dooble’ #litchat -1:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @rebeccawoodhead All hail Ms Twitter UK. I want to see a tiara on your pretty crown. #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @CarolyBurnsBass lost my tiara 😦 #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Hello, joining late. Topic? #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pitchparlour Would anyone like to send their query to pitchparlour.blogspot.com where they can have it critiqued and get useful tips? #litchat -1:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @murzee wordplay – fave types #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook I like a gentle metaphor, both reading them and writing them. Similes are a bit heavy handed. #litchat -1:14 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Puns, of course (cheap date ;-)) #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke I would have to agree with @rebeccawoodhead a double entendre is king/queen #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Thanks, @rebeccawoodhead ! #litchat -1:15 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke perhaps that relates to my love of Round the Horne and similar radio comedy #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead bit of a fan of the pun. Have to be careful not to pun out entirely but a good pun can really lift the day #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee There goes my BFF @bestofchat… #litchat -1:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
PoetLariatt Each in it’s rightful place. #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @LitChat I like metaphor and allegory best I think… I’m listening to Dante’s Divine Comedy now on ipod #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pitchparlour RT @RachelleGardner Main reason I say NO to queries is the story & the writing don’t impress. Problem is the book, not the query. #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee too punny! me too! 🙂 #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead late to the convo as internet crapped out for a bit…what’s the discussion today? #litchat -1:17 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles Agree but only when you can get away i.e. doable entendre @LexxClarke & @rebeccawoodhead a double entendre is king/queen #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @rebeccawoodhead my hubby always snickers at me for making punny jokes, I’m horrible #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Methinks we will be punished RT @corb21: @murzee too punny! me too! 🙂 #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog fave types of wordplay. I’ve gone for the less highbrow but fun – double entendre and pun #litchat -1:18 PM Aug 12th, 2009
wwwgalelaurecom Hello, #litchat I like metaphors–a ltittle too much! Gale Laure, Author of “Evolution of a Sad Woman” -1:19 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee should we play taps? or another one bites the dust? #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee hahaha PUNished! #litchat -1:19 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead yes, i’m all for double entendres, and though i try to resist, love a good pun. #litchat -1:20 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Off to a federal punitentiary with you! I think I am done now, whew RT @corb21: hahaha PUNished! #litchat -1:21 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass I like idioms, but they can be cliched. They work best in dialog and only when they fit the character. #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta @litchat i may be partial, but i never tire of the barbed wit & wordplay of alex. pope & dryden & the obvious choice, wm. shakespre #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog HYPERBOLES IS THE BEST THING EVER!!!!! #litchat -1:22 PM Aug 12th, 2009
danish_novelist @rebeccawoodhead Puns are ONLY good when they’re unpredictable. If not they’re painful #litchat -1:23 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen @murzee That’s the punultimate. #litchat -1:23 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @bibliofreakblog onomonopia? #litchat -1:23 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog hee hee hee – or should that be… OMG!!! LOL!!!! #litchat -1:23 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @danish_novelist yep #litchat -1:23 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee if laughter is punishment I’m hereby doomed #litchat -1:24 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @rebeccawoodhead My grandfather was a really good punster. #litchat -1:24 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 I think puns are like bathroom humor, even when it’s stupid it’s funny. #litchat -1:24 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bestofchat I have reported you for spamming. Get out of the chat. #litchat -1:25 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @pussreboots I think you got em! I don’t see any more. #litchat -1:25 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead http://bit.ly/DaXUl it’s the 3rd one down. #litchat -1:26 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke completely agree with that sentiment @latta #litchat -1:26 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @danish_novelist I think they need to startle with their crassness to really work! #litchat #puns -1:26 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat it’s of interest to note that pope rewrote a lot of s’speare & threw out a lot of puns, wordplay, archaic terms, & mixed metaphors. -1:26 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @pussreboots nope…guess not…since it just RTed my excitement of your catch. #litchat -1:27 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @latta he changed the occasional ending, too. I believe, for example, with King Lear. #litchat -1:27 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee where’s a big cat when you need him? #litchat -1:28 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog under that is ‘I’d like to double your entendre’ silliness. #litchat -1:28 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @bibliofreakblog @latta and yet, there still so much good, juicy play in them thar plays! #litchat -1:28 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead I know…it’s my blog. #litchat -1:29 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles Tis a pity loses much richness @latta pope rewrote a lot of s’speare & threw out a lot of puns, wordplay & mixed metaphors #litchat -1:29 PM Aug 12th, 2009
danish_novelist @juxtabook Startle is always good when it comes to pun. Crassness is even better 🙂 #litchat -1:29 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @latta @rebeccawoodhead I thinks puns are more the Fozzie Bear bear school of writing #litchat -1:29 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat pope changed ‘a sea of troubles’ to ‘a siege of troubles’ just b/c he didn’t care for mixed metaphor, for example. -1:30 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog not so much word play, but I love a good foreshadowing. #litchat -1:30 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @danish_novelist I like a good ol’ limerick for crassness. #litchat -1:30 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @bibliofreakblog I like silliness 🙂 #litchat -1:30 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @corb21 Do you mean onomatopoeia, as in “The Bells” by the Wordmaster Poe? The “tintinnabulation that so musically wells…” #litchat -1:31 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I love ‘wordplay’ itself is just begging to be doobled #litchat -1:32 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Me too RT @bibliofreakblog: @danish_novelist I like a good ol limerick for crassness. #litchat -1:32 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @rebeccawoodhead have you ever seen the t-shirts that say “grammer police” (sic)? cracks me up, though i’m sure its unintentional. #litchat -1:32 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @bibliofreakblog clever language in a microcosym #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @bibliofreakblog @danish_novelist Or a good old contrived Clerihew maybe?? #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @CarolyBurnsBass I have spellitwrongopeia as well, yes, you’ve translated me correctly, thank you. #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat Uh oh, I may have come in late to discover I must bite my tongue about my loathing of puns. 🙂 #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
danish_novelist @latta Why would you expect a German pope to understand puns? They’d be crucified in his mouth anyway #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee There once was a chat from Nantucket…. #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I think simile and metaphor are great for explaining complex things in simple terms #litchat -1:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @kashicat many people loathe them…i have a love/hate relationship with them…i try to get away, but keep going back. #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @corb21 No apologies… I had to google it from memory to see if I got it right. Just making sure it was same thing. #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @juxtabook I LIKE Fozzie! #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog I bet they did it on purpose. Although I suppose it would be funner if it was “speling polise.” #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat oh no don’t do that. I threw puns in for just that reason. Most people hate them. #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 I think after a hard day of reading usually serious material, I just need a brain vacation. #litchat -1:34 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Punning stuns… RT @corb21: @murzee There once was a chat from Nantucket…. #litchat -1:35 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots RT @corb21 I LIKE Fozzie! ( Wocka wocka wocka) #litchat -1:35 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @CarolyBurnsBass funny how “words that sound like what they mean” doesn’t sound like how it’s spelled…. ahh English…. #litchat -1:35 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @juxtabook Clerihew, there’s a word I’ve not heard in years! #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @pussreboots @bibliofreakblog I’ve seen one that says “Bad Spellers of the World Untie!” #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Me too RT @corb21: @juxtabook I LIKE Fozzie! #litchat -1:36 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots i’m pretty sure its not; Ive seen it more than once, & never the real way & grammar police is a common term esp on FB #litchat -1:37 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @murzee me too 🙂 and @bibliofreakblog I love that! #litchat -1:37 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @murzee Punning stuns. How about, stunning puns. I like a good letter swap for silliness now and then. #litchat -1:37 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Do Shakespearean insults qualify? As in “you goatish dog-hearted pignut!” #litchat -1:38 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead I think the time for smug, clever wordplay is during a boom. It’s a recession, bring on the puns! #litchat -1:38 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat david garrick changed lear w/a happy ending. but he put stratford back on the map. -1:38 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee @CarolyBurnsBass You caught me with my hands punted red #litchat -1:39 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles Another form=chaismus e.g. Never Let a Fool Kiss You or a Kiss Fool You. Also title of great book on the subject by Mardy Groethe #litchat -1:40 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots RT @rebeccawoodhead: I think the time for smug, clever wordplay is during a boom. It’s a recession, bring on the puns! #litchat 😀 -1:40 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @LexxClarke Clerihews: Me neither actually but my husband used to like them. I had to look it up to remind myself of the spelling. #litchat -1:41 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat but- pope drove a lot of interest 2ward s’peare. & resultant works revitalised his standing -1:41 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen Outside of humor, are these devices useful?#litchat -1:41 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke a modern genius of puns – Kenny Everett #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Recession is no pun RT (how cheap can I get?) @pussreboots: RT @rebeccawoodhead: Its a recession, bring on the puns! #litchat 😀 #litchat -1:42 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat i still prefer epigrams over nearly any (modern) pun. -1:44 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook . @scgreen Useful anyhere humour is useful – break tension, change mood, and a miriad of other things surely? #litchat -1:44 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee shall we recycle our puns then? #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles Puns, jokes, idioms- all example of a turn of phrase that requires a turn of meaning. Semantic ambush is the key to good wordplay. #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @scgreen surely humour has its own utility? #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @murzee out damned pun, out! #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog who was it who said that pun is not real wit? #litchat -1:46 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook . @hangingnoodles “Semantic ambush” What a great expression! #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog “Grammar Police” have been around from at least the days of the news groups and bbs #litchat -1:47 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @corb21 Also seen Dyslexics Unite #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat @danishnovelist talking abt alexander pope of twickenham -1:48 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass I like. RT @hangingnoodles …Semantic ambush is the key to good wordplay. #litchat -1:48 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @pussreboots Dyslexics Untie. Got the pun wrong when trying to get it right. (after tweedeck ate the first tweet) #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead wordplay’s very important aside from humour. As I said earlier, it helps to explain complex things in a simple way. #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots oh, right, i believe it’s grammar nazi that is popular on FB #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat RT @hangingnoodles: Puns,jokes,idioms eg. of turn of phrase that requires turn of meaning. Semantic ambush is key to good wordplay. #litchat -1:49 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots RT @juxtabook: . @hangingnoodles “Semantic ambush” What a great expression! #litchat Agreed! -1:49 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 excuse me for a moment whilst I send some review copies…stupid work getting in the way of my chat! #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @LexxClarke I understand @scgreen’s question, tho. You would use puns, etc in particular ways, not in everything you write. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat What authors are best at wordplay and creative literary license? Contemporary and classics. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @pussreboots Yes, I was thinking of the Dyslexics Untie phrase too. #litchat -1:50 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @LitChat Shel Silverstein, Dr. Seuss, in the 20th century. #litchat -1:51 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @kashicat Indeed = I suppose that’s the skill, knowing where and when to semantically ambush the reader #litchat -1:51 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Sorry, had to step out. Back now #litchat -1:52 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @LitChat @latta is probably right – Pope, Shakespeare … #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead example of non-funny use of imagery http://bit.ly/nGfjN #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Chrisbookarama @LitChat Nabokov was great with wordplay. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen Peirs Anthony’s Xanth series is loaded with puns. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @bibliofreakblog I see the GRammar Nazi thing everywhere. Especially in places a lot of editors hang out. Hee! #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Agree, love the Dr! RT @bibliofreakblog: @LitChat Shel Silverstein, Dr. Seuss, in the 20th century. #litchat -1:53 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead Good point, that wordplay & humour aren’t synonymous. #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead Jilly Cooper is Queen of puns #litchat -1:54 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @LitChat Completely unknowns: David D. Hume’s BEYOND THE LONG-EARED MOUNTAINS and Andrea Jone’s HOOK & JILL #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog RT @kashicat @rebeccawoodhead Good point, that wordplay & humour aren’t synonymous. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @LitChat Well if you’re talking puns there are “Callahan’s Crosstime Cafe” stories of Spider Robinson. Makes even *me* like them. #litchat -1:55 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @rebeccawoodhead beautiful, simply beautiful #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @scgreen Heh. Yes, Xanth. Fun for the first few stories, but I found it went too long eventually. But yes, he’s an example. #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @LitChat Terry Pratchett who seems to be rubbing off on Neil Gaiman… Jasper Fforde tries… Christopher Moore #litchat -1:56 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat chaucer, of course. donne & marlowe had comic relief w/eloquent phrasing. -1:56 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @Chrisbookarama Different literary form — Sondheim’s lyrics are always *brilliant* w/wordplay. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @LitChat For classic lit, Don Quixote (untranslated) is chock full of puns. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Viapersona When it comes to wordplay, Nabokov is one of the most amusing and yet poignant of masters. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook @kashicat Humour is subset of wordplay though? To be too literal is to be humourless, isn’t it? #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots I ❤ Christopher Moore!!!!! #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @pussreboots Yep. I was going to nominate Jasper Fforde. Fun phrasing is a type of wordplay. #litchat -1:57 PM Aug 12th, 2009
danish_novelist @kashicat Who is the Grammar Nazi? Can we meet? I wanna be the Heinrich Himmler of lame proverbs. Kill! #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @LexxClarke thanks 🙂 #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @kashicat The screwball comedy films of the 1930s were built on word play. #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Chrisbookarama @CarolyBurnsBass Yeah, I love Fforde too. #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @pussreboots I haven’t read Christopher Moore – yet – but everything I hear lately makes me drool to read him. #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat & what about swift’s ‘modest proposal’? so tongue in cheek folks thought he was serious. -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee I like food as a metaphor, Like Water for Chocolate by Laura Esquivel is unbeatable in that department #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @latta Oh yes! John Donne! <swoon> #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen Who’s on first? #litchat -1:58 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen Actually thats, Who’s on first. #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @juxtabook I think wordplay/humour are 2 things that intersect, neither a subset of each other. I may have to mull that, tho #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Also, The Hindi Bindi Club by Monika Pradhan — yum! #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Viapersona RT @danish_novelist @kashicat Who is the Grammar Nazi? Can we meet? I wanna be the Heinrich Himmler of lame proverbs. Kill! #litchat -1:59 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat RT @danish_novelist: @kashicat Who is the Grammar Nazi? Can we meet? I wanna be the Heinrich Himmler of lame proverbs. Kill! #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
CarolyBurnsBass @murzee Bravo. LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE is masterful in metaphor and storytellling. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @latta Swift’s essay is brilliant word play. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead wordplay lets you tell two stories at once or suggest a subtext or foreshadow events or define hidden relationships #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog Whoa, 2PM already? #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bellamcguire I’d say Jasper Fforde and Christopher Moore, they are brilliant at wordplay #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @kashicat I’ve read every single one of Moore’s books and only had 2 disappointments. #litchat -2:00 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Justinfloyd RT @LitChat What authors are best at wordplay and creative literary license? Contemporary and classics. #litchat -2:01 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Chrisbookarama How about Oscar Wilde: The Importance of Being Earnest. #litchat -2:02 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat it is very rare that i find a modern writer very funny-unless they hadn’t intended their words to that effect. -2:02 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @Chrisbookarama The little I’ve read of Wilde suggests that he’s one of the masters at wordplay. #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots I’ve read ’em all, too, which were your disappointments? #litchat -2:03 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead love extended metaphor and poetic conceits like Donne’s The Flea #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Chrisbookarama @kashicat I’ve only read Earnest and Dorian Gray, which is different all together. I must read more though! #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog Fool and Lamb. #litchat -2:04 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat modern humour is much less subtle-& skillfull. don’t hit me over the head-have some artistry. -2:04 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee What about Kafka? #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee And Gogol — master of the metaphor #litchat -2:05 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots NO WAY! Lamb is my abs fav and Fool is way up there. #litchat -2:06 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @murzee I think a lot of Kafka gets lost in translation…not that I know German… #litchat -2:06 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee We cannot leave out Orwell: Napoleon = Stalin #litchat -2:06 PM Aug 12th, 2009
scgreen @pussreboots Lamb was the first book in a LONG time that I laughed out loud while reading. #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead And then the individual phrases: “Get with child a mandrake root.” #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat why can’t we leave out orwell? kindle did…:) -2:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles @murzee speaking of Stalin – he called novelists “engineers of the human soul” #litchat -2:07 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @pussreboots I’ll keep in mind to perhaps leave Fool and Lamb till later, then. Thanks! 🙂 #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee RT @rebeccawoodhead: wordplay lets you tell two stories at once or suggest a subtext or foreshadow events or define hidden relation #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead lol rt latta #litchat why can’t we leave out orwell? kindle did…:) #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke @murzee the genius of Animal Farm #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee He had a lot of Orwellian metaphors RT @hangingnoodles: @murzee speaking of Stalin – he called novelists “engineers of the human… #litchat -2:08 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Viapersona @latta I agree with you. Modern humor relies on too many obvious gimmicks and shock techniques; I cannot truly enjoy that rubbish. #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @latta I’ve noticed that too, about modern humour. More obvious. Slapstick, etc. I prefer subtlety & thinking. #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog They are the two I struggled to finish. He doesn’t do parody well, IMHO. #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat but a lot of the 19th8 russians were also true absurdists. @murzee -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @kashicat NOOOOO don’t leave those til later! #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @bibliofreakblog Ha! Okay okay! Then I’ll just see which I can get from the library first. #litchat -2:09 PM Aug 12th, 2009
juxtabook After all this discussion of 18thc writers it is a shame Defoe isn’t in the trending topics for literary reasons. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots I’m not sure he was actually don’t parody…i think he was just bringing his style to old subjects. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
Viapersona Having read him in German, I affirm this. @bibliofreakblog @murzee I think a lot of Kafka gets lost in translation… #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @Viapersona Cervantez puns and humor are pretty obvious too in Spanish. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat I’m actually a fan of juxtaposition on modern writing. Not really saying anything just showing something by what it isn’t #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @hangingnoodles And it’s no coincidence that 1st people jailed in totalitarian states are novelists & poets. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat The big hand has swept ’round the clock again and it’s time for some to move on. Thanks for a great chat today. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat I’m actually a fan of juxtaposition in modern writing. Not really saying anything just showing something by what it isn’t #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog Michael Ende’s books have nice word play in German. #litchat -2:10 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat 19thc i meant. -2:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat Please continue the convo if you wish, but do come back Friday when @hangingnoodles joins us as guest host. #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
murzee Thanks, @LitChat, signing off now #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead But that’s a subtle form, which I think I’d like. It’s the more obvious stuff I prefer less. #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
pussreboots @bibliofreakblog His style in old subjects doesn’t work and retooling an old subject is a form of parody. #litchat -2:11 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @LitChat will do! thanks! #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead sorry for tweeting twice – typo in first. Thanks for the chat 🙂 #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @latta Re: Russians & absurdists. Have you read “Oblomov”? #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat If you get a chance, check out I’M NOT HANGING NOODLES ON YOUR HEAD by @hangingnoodles (Jag Bhalla). #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
hangingnoodles @murzee re Orwell great who suffered the fate of contra-eponymy. His name now stands for what he wrote against (like Kafka). #litchat -2:12 PM Aug 12th, 2009
bibliofreakblog @pussreboots Lamb was the first of his I read (actually read it in a religion class in college) so it is dear to me. #litchat -2:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LexxClarke thank you for a great chat #litchat -2:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat Oops, I mean I’M NOT HANGING NOODLES ON YOUR EARS by @hangingnoodles (Jag Bhalla). (Sorry, Jag) #litchat -2:13 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat we’ve become too adam sandlered. & less a culure of readers than we’d comfortably like to think. -2:14 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat I love cloaking meaning in words. Disguising and revealing to diff characters and to readers in layers #litchat -2:14 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead signing off now #litchat -2:15 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat i deserve a medal for doing this by blackberry. seriously. love, bloody stumps -2:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead YES! I love that! I love that sort of nuance and layering. #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @latta Wow, I’m impressed. #litchat -2:16 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta @juxtabook you’re welcome. @pussreboots agreed re:swift. contemp lwar of the worlds’ affect. #litchat -2:19 PM Aug 12th, 2009
LitChat Thumbs up to @latta for chatting with Blackberry. (Yes, @kashicat, I can hear you groaning.) #litchat -2:20 PM Aug 12th, 2009
corb21 @pussreboots Swift is wonderful! What’s that essay on how we should eat our children when hard times come??? brilliant! #litchat -2:24 PM Aug 12th, 2009
latta #litchat thank gawd the twtr cooperated! will have to read transcript to catch what i missed. thx @litchat for hosting -2:24 PM Aug 12th, 2009
kashicat @rebeccawoodhead Aw don’t feel like a dunce.What happens is you run into people who’ve read/specialized in one thing only, like me! #litchat -2:33 PM Aug 12th, 2009
rebeccawoodhead @kashicat I don’t really feel like a dunce, I feel like an undergrad again. It’s fun #litchat -2:35 PM Aug 12th, 2009
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