06-24-09 Genre Bending Books, open chat 2
The transcript below covers the complete #litchat conversation on June 24, 2009. The order appears sequentially from the first post to the final post. Topic was open discussion of genre bending books.
| LitChat Welcome to #litchat. Step inside the salon and introduce yourself. Our topic is Genre Bending Books. -1:01 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Hi everyone from chilly Connecticut. Am ready for a chat, wearing fuzzy socks … in June??? #litchat -1:01 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat Did everyone see this: @raconteurreal is giving away a copy of Monica Drake’s “Clown Girl” to a follower who retweets this. #litchat -1:02 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| SighWTF I am probably out to lunch on this, but I always thought of Ray Bradbury’s “Dandelion Wine” as genre bending. #litchat -1:03 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| mireias32 Hi from Barcelona (Spain) #litchat -1:03 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| BookRambler @LitChat hi, @BookRambler, from still daylight and warmish Scotland #litchat -1:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @mireias32 Hi. I bet Barcelona’s warmer than Connecticut right now. #litchat -1:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat Q1 How much do you trust booksellers or librarians in recommending books outside your normal faves? #litchat -1:05 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| GenreReviewer #litchat I’m not sure I read genre bending books, though I’ve read many books that could fit in 2 different genre. What do you mean by bend? -1:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| insidebooks #Litchat hello inside books an avid reader from London. Q1. depends on the bookseller if knowledgable then sure. If chain maybe not. -1:07 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Q1 I rarely ask them. Prefer to browse and make own decisions. #litchat -1:07 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| GenreReviewer #litchat I’ve never had a bookseller or librarian recommend a book that I ending up liking. Publicists, though, are doing pretty well. -1:08 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Q1 I go for genre bending books if rec’d by bookloving friends or online groups, more than booksellers or libraries #litchat -1:09 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat What a col international group today: Scotland, London, Barcelona, Connecticut. Books cross all borders, no? #litchat -1:10 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| nicole_miller @LitChat Q1: I still trust librarians to give a recommendation, but those chains aren’t good for much beyond the bestseller list. #litchat -1:10 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @LitChat I don’t think I’ve ever asked for a rec from a librarian or bookseller #litchat -1:10 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| mireias32 Q1. Normally I don’t ask them. I prefer my own choice #litchat -1:10 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| nicole_miller @LitChat Q1: If there was an independent any where near me, I’d probably trust them…sigh… #litchat -1:11 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @SighWTF I think of a lot of Bradbury’s books as genre bending. #litchat -1:11 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| marianslibrary @LitChat There a couple book stores I frequent and I do take a bookseller’s recommendation many times.Even though I’m a librarian!#litchat -1:11 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots #litchat hello from a soon to be hot East Bay California. Book blogger / web producer -1:12 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| mireias32 @LitChat Thanks God. LOL #litchat -1:12 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Local bookseller has “Staff picks” that are good @changinghands #litchat -1:13 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley hello, all, checking in late, here #litchat -1:14 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana My library used to have staff picks. They were great. Don’t have them anymore, sadly. #litchat -1:14 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @insidebooks Yes, in my neighborhood, the chains seem to employ a constant turn-over of teenagers or very green young people. #litchat -1:14 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Hi Tara. Waving from east coast. #litchat -1:14 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Would “Who Murder Chaucer” be a good genre bender? History and true crime? #litchat -1:14 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen hi all from chesterfield avid reader and budding book blogger #litchat -1:15 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass Prolly green ‘cos they were up drinking all night. #litchat -1:15 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| GenreReviewer #litchat BTW, hello, I’m a book blogger located in the currently hot & humid northern Arkansas. -1:15 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots #litchat I do have a friend w/ a long career as a bookseller. I trust her recommendations. -1:15 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Melwyk As a librarian one of my favourite questions is a ‘what to read next’ one. I enjoy trying to find something a patron might like. #litchat -1:15 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen our library ok but waterstones etc no chance q1 #litchat -1:16 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @pussreboots @SighWTF On Monday we talked about Margaret Atwood bending Sci-Fi, I agree about Bradbury, too. #litchat -1:16 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen @insidebooks hi #litchat -1:16 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @maggiedana Hi Mags! *waving back* How was London and the book promo tour? #litchat -1:16 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @BookRambler May I be disgusting and say The Tsar’s Dwarf by me? Historical fiction & tragi-comedy #litchat -1:16 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Melwyk @maggiedana we have a small display in our library, but I keep it stocked with staff picks – staff enjoys it as much as patrons do #litchat -1:17 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley this may be a stupid question…forgive me if it is…can someone define genre-bending? Something that spans genres or breaks rules #litchat -1:17 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| insidebooks you know those little staff recommendations stuck on the shelves. I always wonder if they were done at gun point. #litchat -1:17 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @TaraStaley London and book tour were brilliant. My publisher is brilliant. WH Smiths selling Beachcombing at airport shops. #litchat -1:18 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| joannemcgonagle Hello, I am late too #litchat -1:19 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @maggiedana *applause* I can’t wait to buy it and read. #litchat -1:19 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @Melwyk How far is your library from coastal Connecticut? Will come visit if I can walk/ride bike! #litchat -1:19 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen @insidebooks or sent out from head office #litchat -1:19 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @insidebooks the staff who make recs seem to be the ones who are enthusiastic about books. #litchat -1:19 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| NessieBeliever @TaraStaley I’m glad you asked. I wondered, too. #litchat -1:20 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @TaraStaley Suggest you buy from The Book Depository. Free shipping from UK to US. Amazon claims to have it but does not. #litchat -1:20 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Weren’t the original genre classes mainly done to accommodate the chains, so they could shelve easily? #litchat -1:20 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat @TaraStaley In terms of our topic, we consider a bit of both: spaning genres and breaking rules, eg a literary mystery. #litchat -1:20 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Melwyk @maggiedana could be a long ride; we’re in Canada 🙂 #litchat -1:21 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @LitChat gotcha. i love it–just the books i go for 😉 #litchat -1:21 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @Melwyk To quote Pooh: “Oh, bother.” #litchat -1:21 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana I looked for BEACHCOMBING when I was in Ireland last week. Does your pub distribute to the Republic and the North? #litchat -1:22 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Genre spaning good for chains: have to look in at least two aisles to find searched for title. 🙂 #litchat -1:23 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass Don’t know. Try Book Depository (and no, honestly, I’m not being paid to tout them!) #litchat -1:23 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @LitChat When several genres merge in an original way you got yourself a genre bender. #litchat -1:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass @TaraStaley Thanks for support re Beachcombing. #litchat -1:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana @Melwyk You could set up a Skype vid chat if you have good A/V in the library. #litchat -1:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| SighWTF I have gotten good recommendations from a high school librarian! #litchat -1:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| insidebooks Would you consider Vonnegut a genre bending author with his mix of sci-fi and satire? #litchat -1:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| rebeccawoodhead #litchat I ask for recommendations in book shops but not libraries – odd that. Never realised that before. -1:25 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley wrt the genre-bending authors–how hard is it to get an agent/publisher to take on such a *risk* #litchat -1:25 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Sidney_Williams I love Bradbury. I’d say Something Wicked This Way Comes is horror, fantasy, coming of age, family saga all rolled into one. #litchat -1:26 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass Am too much of technopeasant to cope with A/V & Skype. Only just now unraveling cell phone mysteries. #litchat -1:26 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @TaraStaley Exactly same thing I asked two days ago. #litchat -1:26 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @insidebooks Vonnegut… yes. #litchat -1:26 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat @zumayabooks How far back are you referring when you cite original genre classes? #litchat -1:27 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots RT @Sidney_Williams I’d say Something Wicked This Way Comes is horror, fantasy, coming of age, family saga all rolled into one. #litchat -1:27 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| darwilli040 @LitChat Using your example, that’s how I discovered Umberto Eco many years ago; a recommendation from clerk at B&N. #litchat -1:28 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @Sidney_Williams That Bradbury must be tough to shelve. #litchat -1:28 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| NessieBeliever @LitChat Q1: I can’t remember the last time I asked for a recommendation from store or library. I have lists of books to read. #litchat -1:28 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie anthology with a theme: Merry Band of Murderers stories based on songs with a CD in the back? Does it count as genre bending? #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks Horror was originally considered a sub-branch of fantasy. Broke out when Stephen King and Dean Koontz went large. #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Melwyk Thanks to Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury is generally shelved in the ‘literary fiction’ area in my library #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass RT @danish_novelist When several genres merge in an original way you got yourself a genre bender. #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly Agree about Vonnegut. Does it seem to anyone else though that we just keep adding genres ad nauseaum. I can’t keep up! #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Melwyk But I also think that Ray Bradbury is an excellent example of genre bending. He seems to be able to do anything! #litchat -1:29 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| SighWTF Would Sherlock Holmes be considered genre bending for the time? #litchat -1:30 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| balletbookworm re Q1: as a bookseller, I am very rarely asked for a recommendation #litchat -1:30 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Many examples of genre bending from Science Fiction authors…hmmm does that genre lend itself to bending? #litchat -1:30 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @darwilli040 Umberto Eco–yes, THE NAME OF THE ROSE is a perfect genre bender: a literary mystery. One of my faves. #litchat -1:30 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| insidebooks @balletbookworm do you find yourself itching to give them? #litchat -1:31 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly @raspee check out #litchat (going on now) #writegoal there are quite a few really. -1:31 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley or do most people come into the store already knowing what they’re going to pick up? #litchat -1:32 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat If you have questions, please @ them to me and I will post to group with a Q number. Easier to follow answers. #litchat -1:32 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| balletbookworm @insidebooks I do, and try to recc a book when I’ve got a customer who I think would like something specific, but it’s pretty rare #litchat -1:32 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots #litchat yes… I think SF lends itself to mixture with all sorts of other genres. -1:32 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly @balletbookworm I have so many books to read as it is, I rarely find myself in need of a recommendation. They float about. #litchat -1:33 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana Yes. Faith and gore. I always recommend the Old Testament to Jesus freaks and mass murderers, #litchat -1:33 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots #litchat Bradbury’s usually in the SF section here. -1:33 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Sorry @litchat I am out of control with my #litchat questions! -1:33 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| balletbookworm @tarastaley customers come with either a title/author (if lucky) or some vague recollection of something heard on NPR/Oprah/etc #litchat -1:34 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat Q3 fm George9Writer: What are some pros and cons of writing fiction that draws from several genres, aside from marketability? #litchat -1:34 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist LOL! #litchat -1:35 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie @TaraStanley I sometimes come to a bookstore with a specific need in mind, but often I to browse #litchat -1:35 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| BookRambler @danish_novelist now that sounds like a genre bender #litchat -1:36 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| zumayabooks If you don’t adhere to accepted genre rules, you risk alienating hardcore fans with established expectations. #litchat -1:36 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| NessieBeliever @LitChat Q3 I would think writing a genre-bender would let you break all kinds of rules and get away with it. Sounds like fun. #litchat -1:36 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat @Rororosie No worries. Glad to have you participate. #litchat -1:36 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Editors don’t like newish authors to step outside their genre too much. Messes up branding and reader expectations. #litchat -1:37 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| hermitpaul #litchat Drawing from several genres is fun & some combinations can be used very well. But, I wouldn’t want to alienate potential customers. -1:37 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly RE Q3 : I think people in general are looking for things that are surprising and new. True originality is hard to come by. #litchat -1:37 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley (writefly) I ditto that. #litchat -1:42 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana People do want comfort level books. They’re called airport reading. #litchat -1:42 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly @Rororosie And I loved Time Traveler for just the fact that I couldn’t categorize it….I’d never read anything quite like it. #litchat -1:42 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @juxtabook That’s been my limited experience. Editors want to brand new authors before letting them outside the box. #litchat -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @maggiedana I think editors recognize new and fresh, but just not love it enough to go to bat for it. #litchat -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie RT writefly: I guess it depends on the audience. I certainly look for something different when I read. And unforgettable. #litchat DITTO -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist Good, because that’s where my novel is being sold! #litchat -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Sidney_Williams @maggiedana lol. He gets into mystery and science fiction at our local library, sometimes in mainstream. Forgot the #litchat -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar I’m an eclectic reader and author who doesn’t really care about genre. Just tell me a good story. Perhaps I’m in the minority. #litchat -1:43 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen back just had to nip out ,some genre bending lit can do really well #litchat -1:44 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana I saw my novel in San Francisco’s airport. I almost fainted. And farted. #litchat -1:44 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ficwriter New and fresh or old and true. What matters is story. Pull me in, and I’ll go with you. #litchat -1:44 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat @TaraStaley Tweet chat is acting up, alright. Just type @TaraStaley in the text box, rather than using the reply button. #litchat -1:45 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly @TwinkleChar Agreed. #litchat -1:45 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist In that order? #litchat -1:45 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen for example jonthan strange and mr morrell did well and that mix a few genres #litchat -1:45 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie @litchat Example of Time Travelers Wife: readers either love/hate it… any other genre benders that are love/hate types? #litchat -1:45 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| NessieBeliever @TwinkleChar Same, same. Good story matters most to me. #litchat -1:46 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @TaraStaley re love/hate types, Everything is Illuminated maybe? #litchat -1:46 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| teresareads @TwinkleChar I’m with you. I’ll read any genre, as long as it’s good–good story, interesting characters and ideas, entertaining. #litchat -1:46 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat Q2 What literary elements cause a book to bend genre? (Just realized didn’t add hashtag! to Q2 and no one saw it.) #litchat -1:47 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @ficwriter Story and VOICE are most important, I would say. #litchat -1:47 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @teresareads Trouble is, actually FINDING these stories that cross genres without going mad or asking green kids for help. #litchat -1:48 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar When I start writing a book (or it first whispers to me), Genre is not on my mind. I listen and follow where my characters lead. #litchat -1:48 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist Voice VERY important, I think. But voice without story is just empty stuff. #litchat -1:48 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar When I shop for a book, I’m all over the store, either with a list of books and/or authors I’ve read about, or waiting for “pick me #litchat -1:49 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana That’s a VERY private question. You’d have to ask my lawyer about that. #litchat -1:49 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| juxtabook . @stujallen Agreed.I loved JS&MN but I know many have mixed feelings about it.Caused by expectations? love/hate as @Rororosie says #litchat -1:49 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @TwinkleChar Clearly you don’t shop while attached to toddlers. #litchat -1:49 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| teresareads @maggiedana Oh, I agree. And I’d add that it’s sometimes even hard to find the good stuff within a single genre. #litchat -1:50 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist Why? Did he faint, too? #litchat -1:50 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana No, voice without story is masturbation. Or as academics would call it, poetry. #litchat -1:50 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| balletbookworm I love him (others may not) but Jasper Fforde has never stayed in one genre for any of his books #litchat -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar Not any longer–unless I’m with my grandgirlies. Then they blaze the trail. #litchat -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| George9Writer #litchat Thanks to all who answered Q3 – pros v cons of genre-bending -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass Q2 Consistently suberb voice is essential element of genre-benders. No purple prose, no euphemisms for male body parts. #litchat -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ficwriter A Girl Named Zippy by Haven Kimmel. Great VOICE, story @danish_novelist @ficwriter Story and VOICE are most important, I would say. #litchat -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist *Snort* #litchat -1:51 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen @juxtabook think maybe the size had something to do with it ,but know people in both camps i loved it #litchat -1:52 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar @ficwriter I loved that book. I have no idea what genre it’s in. That woman can tell a story. #litchat -1:52 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @CarolyBurnsBass Dang, Carolyn. I love purple body parts. #litchat -1:52 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass RT danish_novelist … voice without story is masturbation. Or as academics would call it, poetry. #litchat -1:52 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| teresareads Shadow of the Wind seems to be another cross-genre love/hate book. Oh, and Jasper Fforde, as @balletbookworm suggests #litchat -1:52 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| raspee Hi #litchat community. Glad to be here. Coming with recommendation from @writefly – Hope get to know everyone better. -1:53 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac When you talk about VOICE are you talking about the tone of the novel? #litchat -1:53 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar Stray Affections releases September. Contemporary. Spiritual underpinnings. A mystical “event” that can never be explained. Genre? #litchat -1:54 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog Am late to the party! Agree with @teresareads re: Shadow of the Wind as cross-genre. Girl w/ Dragon Tattoo also, maybe. #litchat -1:54 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @teresareads #litchat Jasper Fforde tends to dump too many silly ideas in his books at the expense of focusing on plot. -1:54 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @ceallac Nobody can really explain voice. It’s one of those ‘you know it when you see it’ thingies. #litchat -1:54 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| GenreReviewer #litchat Q2: I want both genres strongly followed rather than both present but weakly done. If pushing genre rules, must have good reason. -1:55 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley ceallac–IMO, voice is the way the narrator tells the story. So, yes. #litchat -1:55 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @ceallac Yes, VOICE is tone of the novel, the personality, what makes it original, unique.#litchat -1:55 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| Rororosie Taking down notes of love/hate genre benders as recommends to look into! #litchat -1:55 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar @ceallac When I talk about voice, I talk about the voice of the author, which is difficult to describe, in a way. #litchat -1:55 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| writefly @raspee Glad you made it. #litchat -1:56 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog I think of tone & voice differently. Tone as overall feeling, voice as way author/narrator presents self & story. #litchat -1:56 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @TwinkleChar Exactly. Hard to pin down, elusive, but very necessary. #litchat -1:56 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| teresareads @pussreboots I’m w/ you on Fforde; that’s why I’m in the hate camp (and I so wanted to love him) 🙂 #litchat -1:56 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Is J.Fforde related to Katie Fforde? #litchat -1:56 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| kristycolley LOL RT: @CarolyBurnsBass: RT @danish_novelist … voice without story is masturbation. Or as academics would call it, poetry. #litchat -1:57 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar Voice bending. That’s what we got going here! Bwa-ha-ha! #litchat -1:57 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| BookRambler sorry, lost track of #litchat, ‘phone went just as we got started. Somewhat lost the plot, or thread. -1:57 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| CarolyBurnsBass @ceallac Voice is writing style, cadence or rhythm of prose, plus pacing out the revelation of story. #litchat -1:57 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| juxtabook Lots of these cross genre reads seemed to be better reviewed on blogs than by proreviewers. Bloggers not tied by booktrade ‘boxes’? #litchat -1:57 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog @danish_novelist I think they’re different. Tone as overall feel (dark, bright, etc) and voice as how author/narrator presents 1/2 #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| stujallen @maggiedana yeah brother and sister i believe #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ficwriter Exactly! @bookladysblog Tone is overall feeling, voice is way author/narrator presents self & story. #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots @teresareads You’re the first one I know to agree w/ me on Fforde #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @teresareads Fforde is often next to me on the book shelf. That’s reason enough to hate him. #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar @juxtabook Good point about bloggers. #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog @danish_novelist self & story (witty, dry, conversational, etc.) 2/2 #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac Lots of differences on the language/meaning of VOICE & TONE, I will have to think on how I approach a novel & make up my own mind : #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Very different writing style, though, yes? #litchat -1:58 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog @ficwriter Hard to pin it down beyond that, but I think that’s the main distinction. #litchat -1:59 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| teresareads @juxtabook Interesting point. I wonder if the pros tend to review w/in a specific niche and bloggers review whatever appeals. #litchat -1:59 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @maggiedana Both Ffordes have different styles, I meant to say. #litchat -2:00 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog @teresareads @juxtabook Pros develop reputation for specific niche, but many bloggers do, too. Difference is in approach. #litchat -2:01 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @bookladysblog I’m glad that VOICE is hard to define because voice is the art of the novel and who can define art? #litchat -2:01 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| juxtabook . @teresareads I think that is it exactly plus bloggers seek books, pros get them sent -more of the same from the same marketeers. #litchat -2:02 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac Tone (I think) is the metre of the story, dark/light, exciting/reserved, etc for me and it changes throughout unlike poetry #litchat -2:02 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar I used to write for Chicago Trib. People would say, I knew it was your story w/o looking at byline. That to me is voice. #litchat -2:02 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @danish_novelist Well said re Voice. I concur. Whole-heartedly. #litchat -2:02 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac @TwinkleChar so it is your metre they recognised? #litchat -2:03 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @TwinkleChar exactly. Great compliment! #litchat -2:03 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| MizG to use musical terms…”Voice” is the melody, “Tone” is the tempo/volume …? #litchat -2:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @TwinkleChar Amen. Voice is what makes the story you. Thus, undefineable. Kind of 🙂 #litchat -2:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @pussreboots I think that got more & more true of Fforde, the more the books went on. I thought the first one was fairly OK. #litchat -2:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana Just let’s never ask Congress to define ‘voice’, OK? #litchat -2:04 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| pussreboots #litchat @kashicat I hated the first and third books; liked his second and forth books okay. Gave up after that. -2:05 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| kashicat @juxtabook That wouldn’t surprise me, about blogger reviewers. We just review what we want. Different audience too, maybe. #litchat -2:05 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| bookladysblog @danish_novelist Very well said. “Voice is the art of the novel.” I couldn’t agree more. #litchat -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| danish_novelist @maggiedana Thanks. Art, life and God have something in common. They can’t be defined. Unfortunately, priests and critics try to. #litchat -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat We’re at the end of our official 1-hr chat, but feel free to continue the topic. #litchat -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| 10MinuteWriter Authors! Do you have any thoughts about confidence? Weigh in at http://www.10minutewriter.com for new series. #litchat #writer #writing #fiction -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac @maggiedana You are obviously not European, definitions are king in Brussels #litchat -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ficwriter Mama used to say “Don’t you take that tone with me!” and I knew just what she meant. #litchat -2:06 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @ceallac I’m a Brit living in the U.S. #litchat -2:07 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| NessieBeliever @LitChat Thanks for an interesting #litchat. 🙂 -2:07 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| LitChat Remember our guest host on Friday, @MalenaLott, author of DATING DA VINCI, a look at love and loss. 4 p/edt. #litchat -2:07 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| juxtabook @LitChat Thank you – good questions. #litchat -2:08 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @NessieBeliever It’s been quite lively today. Great session. #litchat -2:08 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TaraStaley @LitChat thanks, all. Looking forward to the next time #litchat -2:08 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac @maggiedana Ahh ran away from Brussels then #litchat -2:08 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| maggiedana @ceallac I ran away before Brussels was Brussels. #litchat -2:09 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| BookRambler @LitChat thanks, sory, will try better next time #litchat -2:09 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| mireias32 It’ has been nice share this time with all of you. I’ve really enjoyed. Thanks!! #litchat -2:09 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| ceallac @maggiedana Escape from EU doesn’t have the same tone/voice as Escape from LA #litchat -2:18 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar Just experienced my first TweetChat and lived to tell about it. Not only that, enjoyed the conversation bending ride. #litchat -2:23 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
| TwinkleChar @danish_novelist Thanks for your last #litchat comment. I Amen your Amen! -2:24 PM Jun 24th, 2009 |
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